John3seventeen
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Well it's a good thing your cheesed cause you've got plenty of whine!:whip::icon_twisted::happy175::shrug:
Sorry I just had to. Lol
Sorry I just had to. Lol
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As far as I know the steering column from '02-'07 didn't change besides the addition of the ESP button(and SAS) for model year '06 and '07 but everything else is identical.Thanks! For some time now my suspicion has been that the steering column they installed in November after the break-in was from another year (no one seems to actually know just WHAT year), and is different enough to cause the problem. Your post clears up just exactly what that difference might be.
I may just have them rip the son of a gun out of there and put the right one in. This whole thing has left me royally cheesed. :icon_twisted:
...Nothing in the steering column has anything to do with the TPMS system.
A big clue in my mind is that they had to give me two new keys - the old ones were unable to be programmed to the new (whatever) in the steering column....Sentry Key Remote Entry Module - The Sentry Key Remote Entry Module (SKREEM) is sometimes referred to as the Wireless Control Module (WCM). The SKREEM is located on the right side of the steering column near the ignition lock cylinder housing and an integral molded plastic antenna ring circles the ignition lock cylinder like a halo. The SKREEM and its antenna are concealed beneath the steering column shrouds...
A big clue in my mind is that they had to give me two new keys - the old ones were unable to be programmed to the new (whatever) in the steering column.
So, the only two things using wireless connections both had problems; The keys, which couldn't be matched, and the TPMS which had no sensors to begin with.
I'm actually working off a 2006 SM myself, which seems good enough, but who knows?Unfortunately I do not have the Service Manual for the 2007 models.
The steering column shroud was bashed off and the entire ignition area was beaten in with a hammer. The lock for the tilt steering wheel was damaged badly enough that the wheel could not be raised above its lowest position.What exactly did get damaged in the theft attempt?
The invoice says they did replace it. Whether they did it "properly", I have no way of knowing...If they replaced the steering column did they fit a new clock-spring and did they fit it properly?
That all makes sense, based both on the evidence of the break-in itself and also what was replaced.I have never heard of a WCM module....the SKIM module sits on the top of the steering column and has a loop going around the key entrance to pick up the signal from the chipped key...the thieves were probably trying to hotwire this SKIM module....the Dealers probably replaced it which is why they had to give you new keys to match the SKIM module.
I go with Occam's Razor when I can and that sounds like the most straightforward explanation.Most of the functions of the TPMS and fog lights go through the BCM....which maybe needs re-programming. The PCM would have had to be re-programmed to have the new SKIS code match the new SKIM module....perhaps the Dealers did not program the PCM correctly so that it has the wrong VIN number and thinks that there is TPMS fitted.
Yeah, at a certain point I have to rely on the word of the mechanic who fixed it. I have assurances that everything was done correctly, but we all know what assurances can be worth.Unfortunately some of the wiring under the dash area might have been damaged and if there is damage to the communication Bus all sort of funny things could happen.
I have an invoice on the way with the VIN of the donor Jeep...
On older models, such as mine, the module in the column is called a SKIM. Your SKREEM is different (incompatible). I'm pretty sure 05 is the transition year. Those clueless bastids may have slapped an 04 or older column into your Jeep, which would explain the inability to program your old keys.
SUPPLEMENT SUMMARY
Changed Items
N 4 * S01 Repl LKQ Steering column auto trans
N 15 * Repl LKQ LT Fixed glass w/run channel, Jeep privacy
Added Items
N 11 * S01 Repl Module immobilizer
N 19 # S01 Repl KEYS X2
20 RESTRAINT SYSTEMS
21 * S01 R&I Clockspring w/o elec.stability m Incl.
OTHER CHARGES
Deleted Items
# S01 E.P.C.
So they "added" an immobilizer module (the wireless security key module). Need to find out which one they put in (SKIM or SKREEM), they may have put in the wrong one (SKIM).
Added to my list for the Monday morning phone call to the mechanic who did the work.
I will see what I can find out as regards the TPMS and PCM correlation:shrug:
I wish I could laugh about it. Maybe I will someday.Man, I bet if you find they SKIMped on the old family recipe, you're gonna SKREEM bloody ******, eh? :happy175:
I am going to wave that document under the mechanic's nose and see what he tries to tell me.A...Attached is the PCM/SKREEM Programming procedure from the 2006 Service Manual. I have also seen that the BCM is responsible for things like the front Fog Lights!...I think they have programmed the PCM incorrectly to reflect that TPMS exists!
I will see what I can find out as regards the TPMS and PCM correlation:shrug: