Lift faq: Read before asking questions!

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  1. HoosierJeeper

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    What is the difference between a spacer and a coil lift?
    Spacer lifts retain the stock parts. You fit polyurethane (or sometimes metal) spacers to the stock components. It does require dis-assembly of the front strut assemblies.
    Daystar is the better spacer lift out there, but new lift coils and shocks is the best option.
    What is the best lift out there?
    Most prefer OME Springs (Medium duty or Heavy Duty) and Rancho (which are discontinued), Bilstein, or OME shocks.

    Other solid option, which gives you about 1" of lift, and for near $100, is the "WesWay" lift. Best of all, you can reuse all the components from it (shims, clevis lift, rear isolators)
    http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43781

    Part #'s:
    Coils:
    Front:
    OME 925 rated at 350 lbs just about stock
    OME926 rated at 375 lbs
    OME927 rated at400lbs
    OME 790s for CRD applications or for someone with heavy front bumper and winch rated at 500lbs

    Rear:
    OME 948 rear spring rate: 200 lbs/inch

    BDS rear spring rate: 210 lbs/inch

    EFS rear spring rate: 220 lbs/inch

    Shocks:
    Front (same size as stock):
    Rancho: RSX17505
    Bilstein: F4-BE5-D916-H0
    OME: NS131

    Rear:
    Rancho: RSX17004 NO LONGER AVAILABLE
    Bilstein: F4-BE5-6458-H7OR F4-BE5-A702--H0 (They are pretty much the same thing)
    OME: N132-L

    What other components for a lift do I need besides shocks and coils?
    Bumpstops. Teraflex is the only ones providing front bumpstops You need extended ones, to prevent stacking the coils (which will wear them out quicker)
    Bumpstops prevented this coil from stacking:
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    So...you need Tera Flex front bumpstops
    For the rear, Daystar ones or hockey pucks will work out the same, both require drilling in the spring perch.
    HOW TO REAR BUMPSTOPS (Hockey puck version):
    http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43989

    Will I need new A arms? What is the advantage of JBA A Arms?
    Probably not. The advantage is that they reduce or eliminate coil contact (again, not everyone will have coil contact) The ball joints in them are also replaceable, unlike the Mopar OE ones. Plus the red powder coat on them looks great. :D

    What can I add to the front for more lift?
    You can do a clevis lift, add a top plate either 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch thick, and even a very small spacer to the strut assembly.
    Key thing is to keep the hub to fender measurement under 23.25 ", otherwise you'll want JBA arms and cut CV's.

    What can I add to the rear for more lift?
    Extra isolators on the top. Lower ones can be used but most prefer to add one or two top ones

    Please post up any additional info or questions, so I can add them to this post.

    How To Install a lift

    Some additional reading, as posted by Josh (Thanks)
     
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    Great idea for a post. Keeps everyone (me included) from asking the same questions over and over.
     
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    Should throw in some links for places to get the OME parts. I gotta search agian I did see one in the numerous post asking about lifts. I'm glad I research everything before I jump into doing something. I almost went out and got the Skyjacker lift simply cause I coulda used my card to pay for it from a shop online. But after reading most of the post here I will be waiting for income tax time or setup payments if I can find the site agian that was willing to work that. :)
     
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    sorry if this has been asked before,
    but I've read and re-read all the posts I could find till I went crosseyed.
    anyway if I were to use OME 927 front and 948 rear I can use my stock front shocks and use rear shocks from a Dakota with hockey pucks in the rear and Tera Flex in the front correct ?
     
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    found the answer (did some more reading)
     
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    thanks man saves me a bit of money and aggrovation
     
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    I have a question with the bumpstops. I am looking into replacing my shocks and coils to get me back to stock height or a little higher and get us a nicer, quieter ride. Since I'm pretty much replacing what I already have with better and newer stuff (I'm looking at OME all the way around) do I need to add more components that don't come with the OME stuff? If I don't have them stock (do I?) then why do I need them with the new stuff?
     
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    You have them stock, but with the OME stuff, with the added height, the stock ones are too short.
     
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    Thanks! I had a feeling it was a simple answer, I just didn't know what it was...:shrug:
     
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    Correction to the above information
    YOU DO NOT have to replace the bumpstops in the front if using OME springs and OME shocks. OME shocks have built in bumpstops.
    NOW saying that what we do is install them so with larger tires you do not flex enough to tear off flares.
    Rear is the same almost but again install them for the same reasons.
    Hope that clears it up some.
     
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    just to make sure im clear on this: the front shocks used for the 2 inch lift are the same length as the stock shocks?
     
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    Yes
     
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    What is the maximum amount of clevis lift?

    My new suspension has settled and the left front is a tad lower than the right. I'd like to level it out.
     
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    About 3/8" is what is safe...
     
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    ive seen no info in the forum about the spring tech spacer/coil lift, anyone have anything on that?
     
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    Never heard of it...have a link?

    Thanks
     
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    http://canuckmotorsports.com/cat_jeep_lift.html

    ordered drop spindles from these guys before (good service), and also seen them mentioned on lost but thats it.. just mentioned.. but my main concern is would a 3in strut spacer be something to worry about?

    and its in canada... so no duty on it, and fast shipping
     
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    3in spacer...no thanks. Not crazy about a 1" honestly...