265/75/16's on Moabs!

[05renny]

Test fitted my buddies Moab wheels with some 265/75/16's on the jeep to see if the gearing issue was as bad as many seem to preach. I've got first hand knowledge that I have absolutely no issues what-so-ever. I've driven a week on them, around town, highway (my daily work commute) and almost no gas milage loss, no overdrive issues, no "searching for the right gear". MAYBE 1-2MPG. It's slow, but hell-- it's a jeep, you want pep, buy a miata. Anywho, onto the pics!

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Highway RPM's--- no bogging, nothing.

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edit: ahhh crap, put this in KK, not KJ.

 

[VAhlene]

What lift are you running? Also try driving over a mountain pass like here in Colorado and I bet you change your mind about the gearing. Im running 245/75 and going over some of the passes here I already wish I had 4.10's

 

[05renny]

OME kit w/ 3 clevis spacers, 1xtra upper iso in rear.

Ninja edit: Also, there is some work to get those tires to fit, that I will not dispute. Nothing a mini sledge and a grinder can't fix, also-- not saying I won't regear in the future, or disagreeing with the benefits of regearing. Just stating its not nearly as bad as it's made out to be.

 

[yellocoyote]

Test fitted my buddies Moab wheels with some 265/75/16's on the jeep to see if the gearing issue was as bad as many seem to preach. I've got first hand knowledge that I have absolutely no issues what-so-ever. I've driven a week on them, around town, highway (my daily work commute) and almost no gas milage loss, no overdrive issues, no "searching for the right gear". MAYBE 1-2MPG. It's slow, but hell-- it's a jeep, you want pep, buy a miata.

That's what the gearing helps to correct.

Glad you like them - I like mine.

 

[05renny]

That's what the gearing helps to correct.

Glad you like them - I like mine.

I guess what my thought is, it was dogp1ss slow to begin with, I don't see a difference. I feel the biggest limiting factor for the liberty is tire size. Everytime someone wants to upgrade to big tires, everyone on the site screams no! My advice-- get a spare set for the trails. Save the 2grand in regearing (including labor), and be a badass on the trails.

 

[4x4kayak2112]

Pretty cool experiment

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[TheBlueKJ]

How much trimming did you have to do?

 

[05renny]

How much trimming did you have to do?

As of now just the pinch welds. To be able to wheel with those size tires it is going to take pounding of the wheel wells and trimming of front bumper. I will be doing a write up this weekend when I have a day off to finish it.

 

[tommudd]

:drink_nl:

Common sense comes into play here
Motors/transmissions are set up to run at a certain RPM ( sweet spot ) to deliver the best mileage and power . So taking one that has a 29 inch tall tire with 3.73 gearing stock and then run a 32 inch tall tire is going to change it a lot. It is not only taking away power/mileage but also harder on the transmission and the engine will run hotter. Now maybe running around C-bus you may not notice too much but if you take it for any extended road time you'll notice a huge difference. The motor will in fact lug down with the taller tire.

 

[Wulfhound]

What lift are you running? Also try driving over a mountain pass like here in Colorado and I bet you change your mind about the gearing. Im running 245/75 and going over some of the passes here I already wish I had 4.10's

Is the KK geared differently then the Kj? I am asking cause y'all keep saying you need 4.10's and your running 245/75/16's or similar and I have
245/75/16's on my stock 2012 KK and I have not had any issues rpm's nor acceleration. I also still have a few inches left in the wheel well

 

[yellocoyote]

Gearing is the same.

 

[4x4kayak2112]

I've also noticed at sea level (where I live) my kj has plenty of power. But when we went to Tennessee and Kentucky my KJ seemed to be sluggish. Maybe someone might chime in about gearing/power/altitude. ....

Did some research.
NW ohio (findlay oh) has a average elevation of 750 ft.
Dyserburg Tn 290 ft
Louiseville ky 460 ft
Liberty texas. 17 ft gps confirmed. Flood zone confirmed.

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[Wulfhound]

Gearing is the same.

the gering is the same then thanks Yellocoyote:cheers:

 

[05renny]

The big thing is, getting the tires to fit. My plan, since I don't have any money to re-gear, is to buy a second set of wheels and tires, and rock those when wheeling. You can find sets of tires for real cheap, and you can find wheels for dirt cheap as well.

 

[4x4kayak2112]

The big thing is, getting the tires to fit. My plan, since I don't have any money to re-gear, is to buy a second set of wheels and tires, and rock those when wheeling. You can find sets of tires for real cheap, and you can find wheels for dirt cheap as well.

So what are you planning on running daily and for wheeling?

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[Luke]

How long did you run stock Wulf? Maybe that's why you don't notice? Wait till you lift it .. I can feel it every day... but I don't expect much from a brick on wheels

 

[05renny]

So what are you planning on running daily and for wheeling?

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Right now, when I go wheeling I used the stock Renegade wheels and my grabber AT2's.

When the time comes (cash) I will purchase a set of used Cragar Soft-8's (can find those for dirt cheap) and then find a set of used, but good condition MTR's in 32x10.50's or 265/75/'s . What our jeep's need is diff clearance. I gain ONE INCH over my 245-70's of rear Diff clearance. So, honestly, it doesn't really matter tire I choose, as long as it has aggressive tread in good condition for cheap.

 

[Wulfhound]

How long did you run stock Wulf? Maybe that's why you don't notice? Wait till you lift it .. I can feel it every day... but I don't expect much from a brick on wheels

I am still at stock hieght I am planning on ordering the Mudd Eco lift on the
15th and was thinking of going to 32's

 

[yellocoyote]

You'll notice it.

I went to 4.10's a long while before I went to 32's. I got so used to what the 31's/4.10's felt like together, that when I finally got the 32's... now it feels all slow again. p: It's okay though - I still dig it.

 

[Luke]

I am still at stock hieght I am planning on ordering the Mudd Eco lift on the
15th and was thinking of going to 32's

I meant tire size ...