2006 Jeep Liberty Sport Special Edition

[mag03kj]

TJKJ lives in CO.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

In CO I'd be better off with out all that stuff...

 

[JeepINgeek]

ok so he doesnt live in the south
frankly i dont care..

dogging on Esp and trac control when considering safe driving is total BS.

yes, offroad its worthless.. but i dont have a second car and i drive mine every day so i need every bit of help i can get to make it home and to work...

again. esp et. al. has kept me on the road..

 

[yellocoyote]

keeps me from doing donuts.

Why would you want to prevent that?

I hate my ABS. A lot. I'm very happy I don't have to worry about ESP too.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

I'm happy that I don't have either...

 

[JeepINgeek]

dont get me wrong ill take ribbing for having the special *durrrr* *drool* edition all day long.. thats funny shift!

 

[HoosierJeeper]

Your KJ is sharp...and I'm jealous of your rims...

 

[JeepINgeek]

lol you dont like it?!

wow

what do you do on ice? put it in D and let it creep itself up to speed?

i put mine in D and hit the go pedal.. i take right off..

all i have to do is worry about stopping..

 

[yellocoyote]

I don't know about anyone else, but I was taught how to drive in the snow without the aid of any kind of traction control or ABS or any of that crap. People rely on the 'systems' to protect them and not their knowledge of how to handle weather conditions.

 

[JeepINgeek]

makes me wonder if you know what esp does?

it works the brakes ( i have 4 wheel disk ) to create better traction..

 

[mag03kj]

I dont have ABS or ESP! And boy do i love not having them!

 

[JeepINgeek]

i learned to drive in teh snow in a 66 mustang with a stick..

trust me i did my time..

my esp system is a vacation for me.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

lol you dont like it?!

wow

what do you do on ice? put it in D and let it creep itself up to speed?

i put mine in D and hit the go pedal.. i take right off..

all i have to do is worry about stopping..

My KJ has never seen ice...or snow...

But with other vehicles in ice, I usually just put it in 4 High, drive a bit slower, and just don't over react to any situation...

 

[JeepINgeek]

im going to shut up now.. clearly what im arguin between is..

the people that can afford to be without a vehicle or fix it if they ditch it or whatever.

and me.. who simply cant..

im done, ive already posted more than i watned here.. wish the thread had been locked after i posted it.. it was just to be informative on what made up a special edition since i had such a hard time finding official information on it...

 

[HoosierJeeper]

What...I was just getting started...
jk

I did like having TC in my 2wd Durango. Other than that...I'm not real used to it...

 

[yellocoyote]

I have yet to see an argument...

... only people expressing their opinions of what they like/don't like. You like ABS/ESP - that's awesome - for you. I don't - that's me.

Differing opinions are part of what makes life interesting, right?

 

[JeepINgeek]

peeps doggin on esp
me disagreein..

im just hot and tired

takin it personal.


so im tappin out

 

[HoosierJeeper]

I know how ya feel...the heat wears on ya...

 

[mag03kj]

(lol)

 

[tjkj2002]

i will STRONGLY disagree with you on the ESP Trac Control and Roll..

I know for a fact that my ESP has saved my ass multiple times.

and i depend on it heavily when driving in wet/slippery weather.. keeps me from doing donuts.

you may live in the south.. but up here in the north that stuff is priceless.

Grew up in South Dakota and live in Colorado now,far worse weather in SD then your neck of the woods.

I had 2 vehicles with ABS a quickly pulled the ABS fuses so as not to get myself killed when driving in bad weather.

ok so he doesnt live in the south
frankly i dont care..

dogging on Esp and trac control when considering safe driving is total BS.

yes, offroad its worthless.. but i dont have a second car and i drive mine every day so i need every bit of help i can get to make it home and to work...

again. esp et. al. has kept me on the road..

Good tires is better then all of those when combined with knowing how to actually drive.Mine is my DD also.

lol you dont like it?!

wow

what do you do on ice? put it in D and let it creep itself up to speed?

i put mine in D and hit the go pedal.. i take right off..

all i have to do is worry about stopping..

I floor mine also and it just goes,and yes that is in only 2wd.I have yet needed to even lock in my front hubs.I'm playing slalom course in winter going around people with with ESP/ABS/Traction control because they just don't work.

makes me wonder if you know what esp does?

it works the brakes ( i have 4 wheel disk ) to create better traction..

I know how it works,I get to deal with it when it doesn't which ***** because they are over-complicated systems which really are not needed or work right 99% of the time anyways.