Would a Dana 30 be worth using?

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  1. Ry' N Jen

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    If you stuffed a Dana 30 with high quality components, would it be a good choice for an SFA swap onto a KJ?
    Or would you be better off going with a Dana 44 and just swallow the additional cost of quality components?

    I'm starting to price stuff out and making a budget for the eventual transition to solid front axle swap for what will be my KJ.
    As Jen has her heart set on a modded XJ in the near future...
     
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    The KJ is a heavy pig,more so when doing a SFA.Why polish a turd? I personally wouldn't go less then a '75-'77 HP44 for the front with there 1/2" axle tubes which are twice as thick as a D30's.
     
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    X2-and would not be scared of HP60.
     
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    There are tons of people running 37+ tires on jk Dana 30's with axle sleeves and c gussets. I don't see why it wouldn't work

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    Just polishing a turd with a 7.25" ring gear compared to a 8.5" ring gear of a D44.Start adding alloy axles and CTM's(or RCV's) then your weak point after the stock tubes is the ring gear(or spiders).Sleeving and trussing is money better spent elsewhere.

    Might as well throw a D35 in the rear while your at it.

    Just a comparision for JK axles,the OEM stock is the D44 front compared to others.

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    '75-'77 F100/F150 HP44 comes standard with 1/2" thick tubes,can be had for $150-$200 all day long.
     
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    Dana 60's and 35" tires there's a pumpkin dragger lol I wouldn't do tons on anything with less than a 38", IMO if you can do a 44 do it if not throw a XJ 30 in for now and swap to the 44 when money allows mine will eventually be a Rubi 44 as it's a simple bolt in now.
     
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    The TJ D44 is nothing more then a D30 with a 8.5" ring gear and low pinion to boot.Not really worth the $$$ on a TJ D44.The JK D44 is not really a D44 at all,shares nothing with a actual D44 but name and is the wrong bolt pattern but at least it's a HP diff.


    I run a rear HP60,but has the same ground clearance as a D44.Drooling now that Currie has come out with the RockJock70:Hump:
     
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    Ya but those guys running 37+ inch tall tires don't off road them... Just mall crawlers!


    That cheap Eh?
    I might have to go state side and look for one.
    I had a line on a "Cheap" 44 but it was NFG! That's why it was cheap!
    I didn't buy it.

    Never thought of a Rubi 44. Hmmm, built in electric locker.
    Is that locker any good?
     
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    Really? I know a few locally who do. Its safest to go pro rock 60's

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    Almost every JK with 37" tires and stock axles here only mall crawl and complain about everything that running 37" tires brings.

    PR60's huh? Good way to spend $16,000+,some beef for sure.
     
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    It all comes down to tire size and driver style
    if all you plan is 33's then any Dana 30 will be fine
    35's and a HP 30 would be better
    I have seen what guys put there TJ's through and
    have rarely seen a 30 fail
    and when they fail it is because the Jeep is open/open
    in the rocks following guys who are locked/locked
    If I were to SFA a KJ
    I would make it simple and strong but with easily available
    parts ,probably find a donner YJ for steering and front diff
    and t- case if you have the 242 could also use the drive shafts
    but they will need to be adjusted for length and rebalanced
    I would build or buy the long arms/track bar/mounting brackets
    I would use coil overs mounted in the OE location
    This will be a fab heavy job
    But you rely on the fab work to hold up and know that moving
    parts can fail so you want to be able to walk into any
    chain parts store and get what you need
     
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    Mud is one thing,rocks are another.That's one of the 1st things guy's do out here is scrap the D30/D35 combo for something alot stronger.

    D44/HP44 parts are just as plentiful and the HP44 stuff can be alot cheaper then a D30 replacement parts like wheel bearings.
     
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    The running gear from a 78 or so Ford would be more than sufficient for most. Personally I think 37" tires are a good point of aim. As for clearance at the diff.,a shave will take care of this.
     
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    You seem to be one of the many many people who think
    all we wheel is mud
    You and them would be WRONG
    EVERY person who I wheel with HATES mud
    We do not have boulders that stay where they are either
    what we have are rocks the size of tires from Honda
    to tractor or bigger and they move
    This means that the trail that was a 3 last week
    is a 5 this week and could get better or worse
    I just know that more often then any place I have
    wheeled the directions are "as soon as your back
    tire clears that rock find the revlimiter"
    have a turdy five and you end up broke
    but we break as many HP44's and even 60's as
    we do 30's and 99% of the time it is the
    ears on the stub shaft or the u-joint
    Like I said 33's and a 30 no issues
    35's and a 44 (nonRubicon) no issues
    37+ and a 60 (I6) no issues
    V8 and all bets are off
    open diff and crazy wheel speed same thing
     
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    I wheeled down south,not as far south as you are but what you call rock crawling is the bunny trails here in CO.


    Will it live? Yes but once you start pushing harder and harder that D30 going to give up the ghost sooner then later.Same goes for a HP44 but you have alot more time at half the cost of a built HP60.Heck even HP60's break out here in CO all the time,and some with 37" tires.

    A HP60 is just a headache for a KJ because of it's shear size,at least a HP44 is much more installer freindly.The D30 requires the use of coilovers and sorry but on a KJ front coilovers just don't flex as well as seperate coil/shock setup.
     
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    This topic is educational for me, as our KJ is our first Jeep so I've got allot to learn.
    I am sucking everything up like a sponge!

    Thanks
    Ry'
     
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    Really? So no option is sane unless its your option? Jk forum has 60000+ members. Probably 15000 are running 35+ tires EASY. Most with d30 front ends. Why don't you stand in front of all those people and tell them the set up they've been running for years is completely retarded and wont ever work. I'm running 35's on mine and so far no issues.

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    JK forum is the most censored BS place in the world.They ban poeple just for showing a pic of the JK with a product of there black listed company's,which is almost all but those that pay the forum bills.

    JK D30 with 35" tires.............

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    This one is on stock sized tires.........
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    Stock tires. Proving that if you drive like a jack ass your sh*t will break

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    I drive like a jacka$$ and my front tubes haven't broke,but 1/2" thick DOM will take some major abuse.