desert..
I'm a moderator on a popular vw forum. and.. the treg real world issues scare me. tires bad at a really early age.. if you want one priced lower its not really loaded, and loaded is 50k. I'd like to stay under 40k for it.
LR presently has 10k off sticker..
I really liked my TJ and wanted a 4 door one.. but.. I'd miss my heated seats.. I like cars not too many ppl have ya know? and that hold some value after a few years.. my TJ when I sold it brought in about 4,000 less than what I paid for it (new) I had a jetta..(summer car) bought it, put 15k miles on it, got what I paid for it (to the penny) cannot do that with too many cars today.. look at what ford is doing (and yeah I know LR is ford) ford is offering.. 279 a month for 24 months on an eddie bauer ford explorer (exploder) will it be worth 13k in 24 months most likely.. I also try not to buy cars that got eaten up by the rental pools of the USA.. hertz and such but in bulk grand cherokees / ford explorers . and when they have a mass of something, it makes everyone else's car less. my 2 cents, bring on the flames..