Bure Aghali means "free is expensive", not cheap is expensive, btw. There's quite a bit of a difference. Cheap often has a good value or at least has required functionality at the lowest price, but things given away for free always come with a hidden price. Ask your African friends, they will confirm.
I'd like to know what post lead you to think "cheap or the cheapest"(EDIT: I realize this may look a bit sarcastic, but I really would like to know what post I mangled that made someone think this). I know me, and I'm pretty sure I go for the best value. Just because I don't believe cost = benefit doesn't mean I go for the cheapest option. Were you to describe the benefits of OME shocks over Bilstein (rather than saying, repeatedly, over several different threads that they offer essentially the same ride), I would have listened. I did say that I don't care about lift height, several times. Granted, maybe the LIFT THREAD wasn't the best place to put this question, but at the time I thought it was reasonable since I was asking about taller springs.
I am not the first to accuse you of what someone else said is a "bad bedside manner"; I've now read a LOT of your posts. Even your friend Twobobs had to defend you in this thread. I can respect experience, but in my experience people that truly know what they are talking about listen first then have the ability to explain their opinions. When I see posts like this one and a response that is dismissive and, frankly, insulting, to a person that put a lot of work and thought into a perfectly valid question, that takes whatever amount of experience you have and makes me think that you either don't care or aren't willing to consider things you haven't thought of before. To me, either of those attitudes disqualify someone as an expert.
Maybe those don't apply to you generally, maybe you're just sick of hearing the same questions over and over again, I'm not trying to tell you your thoughts, but that is the impression that I, and more than one other that has PM'd me, get about you .
I have no doubt that you are an expert in the matter. However, you have a lot of seemingly contradicting views on things. I am sure that they only seem contradicting because you, for whatever reason, don't provide any context. Like I said before, for instance, 927/948 combo may very well be the best available option for everyone but when a person is recommended a $1000 price tag but with no acknowledgement of the fact that different people generally need different things the entire recommendation often gets discounted. For another instance, I don't know right now what you think the OME has as a benefit over the Bilstein, if any. I've looked. I am well aware that you think the OME is better, but without knowing WHY, I can't determine if it is better for me or if it would only be better for someone else.
It all come down to the fact that we are doing a cost/benefit analysis. The cost is numbers, the benefit is what we are all asking you for.
All it takes in a forum like this is ONE effort as to explaining why. Those of us that don't know can link to that explanation. Or you can link to it. Heck, you're a moderator you can make it a sticky. I know because I'm an expert in another forum. I listen, I recommend, and I offer explanation, caveats, and options. Difference is that I'm an expert in something that is nearly free to complete and easy to alter. You are an expert in something that can cost people thousands of dollars and cannot be returned. You WILL deal with more anxiety as a matter of course. You seem to take that anxiety as a lack of respect for your expertise. It is not so. It is anxiety for doing it right the first time. I stated that price was not really an object for me. I was not convinced (and honestly still am not) that OME shocks are worth the price. For all I know, I'd get the same issues I have now with a higher price tag.
You need to understand that I am not the only person with these questions and these concerns, but I am likely the only person in my unique situation, just like everyone else is. If you have respect for that, people that aren't inclined to respect your dictum will certainly respect your explanations.
Trust me, I've been there.
I'd like to know what post lead you to think "cheap or the cheapest"(EDIT: I realize this may look a bit sarcastic, but I really would like to know what post I mangled that made someone think this). I know me, and I'm pretty sure I go for the best value. Just because I don't believe cost = benefit doesn't mean I go for the cheapest option. Were you to describe the benefits of OME shocks over Bilstein (rather than saying, repeatedly, over several different threads that they offer essentially the same ride), I would have listened. I did say that I don't care about lift height, several times. Granted, maybe the LIFT THREAD wasn't the best place to put this question, but at the time I thought it was reasonable since I was asking about taller springs.
I am not the first to accuse you of what someone else said is a "bad bedside manner"; I've now read a LOT of your posts. Even your friend Twobobs had to defend you in this thread. I can respect experience, but in my experience people that truly know what they are talking about listen first then have the ability to explain their opinions. When I see posts like this one and a response that is dismissive and, frankly, insulting, to a person that put a lot of work and thought into a perfectly valid question, that takes whatever amount of experience you have and makes me think that you either don't care or aren't willing to consider things you haven't thought of before. To me, either of those attitudes disqualify someone as an expert.
Maybe those don't apply to you generally, maybe you're just sick of hearing the same questions over and over again, I'm not trying to tell you your thoughts, but that is the impression that I, and more than one other that has PM'd me, get about you .
I have no doubt that you are an expert in the matter. However, you have a lot of seemingly contradicting views on things. I am sure that they only seem contradicting because you, for whatever reason, don't provide any context. Like I said before, for instance, 927/948 combo may very well be the best available option for everyone but when a person is recommended a $1000 price tag but with no acknowledgement of the fact that different people generally need different things the entire recommendation often gets discounted. For another instance, I don't know right now what you think the OME has as a benefit over the Bilstein, if any. I've looked. I am well aware that you think the OME is better, but without knowing WHY, I can't determine if it is better for me or if it would only be better for someone else.
It all come down to the fact that we are doing a cost/benefit analysis. The cost is numbers, the benefit is what we are all asking you for.
All it takes in a forum like this is ONE effort as to explaining why. Those of us that don't know can link to that explanation. Or you can link to it. Heck, you're a moderator you can make it a sticky. I know because I'm an expert in another forum. I listen, I recommend, and I offer explanation, caveats, and options. Difference is that I'm an expert in something that is nearly free to complete and easy to alter. You are an expert in something that can cost people thousands of dollars and cannot be returned. You WILL deal with more anxiety as a matter of course. You seem to take that anxiety as a lack of respect for your expertise. It is not so. It is anxiety for doing it right the first time. I stated that price was not really an object for me. I was not convinced (and honestly still am not) that OME shocks are worth the price. For all I know, I'd get the same issues I have now with a higher price tag.
You need to understand that I am not the only person with these questions and these concerns, but I am likely the only person in my unique situation, just like everyone else is. If you have respect for that, people that aren't inclined to respect your dictum will certainly respect your explanations.
Trust me, I've been there.
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