Different Size Spare Tire

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LibertyNM

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When I bought my Liberty, the spare tire was shot. I put a new spare tire (225/75 16). Now it is time to change my tires. I want to get 253/70 16, but not sure if it would be a problem with the spare being different. Does anyone know?' I have the command-trac system. Thanks.

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Yes .. all your tires should be the same size. Otherwise you have 2 tires rotating at different speeds connected to a system that wants to turn them both at the same speed. Not good
 

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^^agree with Luke.

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all depends on the tires.

example:
Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
P235/70R16 is a 29.0" tall tire
LT225/75R16 is a 29.3" tall tire

0.3" isn't going to make that much of a difference
granted one's a "passenger" tire and the other's a "Light Truck" tire, but they don't make both sizes in the same class for whatever reason.

plus if you aren't going to roll around with it on for a long period of time after a failure of your main tires, you shouldn't have a problem.
now if you want to do a 5 tire rotation, you'll need all 5 to be identical.

disclosure: the spare on my jeep does not match the rolling tires in brand. it does in size though. it's the original spare that came with the jeep. when I have to replace these tires I won't be replacing my spare either.
 
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My spare currently is a Falken Rocky Mountain AT/S 225/75 16.
The tires I want to get are the Yokahama Geolander AT/S 235/70 16

According to the Discount Tire website:

225/75 235/70 Diff
Sidewall height 6.64 6.48 -0.16
Section Width 8.86 9.25 0.39
Overall diameter 29.29 28.95 -0.34
Circumference 92.01 90.96 -1.05
Revs per mile 688.63 696.59 7.96



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if it were me I wouldn't care.
just keep in mind that if you have a catastrophic failure of one of the Geo's and have to replace it, after a certain point you might have to replace 2 so that they're at least the same diameter on a given axle. which would give you a semi-matching spare tire.
 

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FWIW, I'm of the opinion that all 5 tires on a Jeep should be the same brand and the same size - and at each tire rotation all 5 are used.

If the spare just hangs on the rear gate and is never used it will be larger than the other four. Keep rotating the four on the ground and the difference becomes noticeable.

Before I bought new shoes I had one tire that was slightly larger than the other three on the ground. Shifting in and out of 4WD was 'interesting,' as my transfer case didn't want to release the front diff. Yea, I changed the fluids regularly - but when I went to new rubber all the way around the problem went away.

The shop I bought my tires from rotates them for free every 5000 miles - and no extra charge for the 5th tire.

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fwiw, i'm of the opinion that all 5 tires on a jeep should be the same brand and the same size - and at each tire rotation all 5 are used.

This! I also rotate on EVERY oil change (I use 5K intervals.)

Don't forget, if you use a 5 tire rotation, your tire spends 20% of its time off the street, and- in theory- should last about 20% longer.
 
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^^yeah, I also do 5 tire rotations so my tires are pretty evenly worn.

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If you have the command trac t-case and do njot have the optional rear factory LSD then it does not matter.If you have the selectr trac t-case and/or the factory LSD then it would matter alot.

Just can't do a 5 tire rotation,otherwise funny handling will occure but no damage to the jeep will be done,unless you crash into something.
 

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I rotate through all of mine too, and for that keep a clone spare.

But if money is tight or you have some other reason you cant get but 4, then the spare would be like the little donut in my wifes hyundai.
Only use in case of emergency,
dont drive fast,
only drive it far enough to get it changed,
and keep it in 2wd.
 

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I rotate through all of mine too, and for that keep a clone spare.

But if money is tight or you have some other reason you cant get but 4, then the spare would be like the little donut in my wifes hyundai.
Only use in case of emergency,
dont drive fast,
only drive it far enough to get it changed,
and keep it in 2wd.

Problem with that is if you wheel your Jeep, the most likely place to pop a tire is off-road where 4x4 could make the difference between driving and walking (or riding with a buddy since you never wheel alone- right?)

So my answer to the OP would be, if you intend to depart from improved road surfaces with your Jeep, I highly recommend a matching spare. If not, it's up to you.
 
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that's a specific use case though, and it's also a cost vs. "enjoyment factor" issue.
I'd hope the true ********* wheelers have seperate offroad and on-road tires anyways, since I can't imagine life being too pleasant on the streets with true off-road tires. if you're really into wheeling you've probably invested heavily into the vehicle as it is (skids, winches, lifts, wheels, tires) and having one or more matching spares is more for safety than enjoyment.

for majority of the time when doing on-road duties, as long as the spare is reasonably close in diameter to the 4 primary rollers I don't see any reason it HAS to be a total match. and as tj said, if you LSD's installed front/rear/both then you'll want to only do a 4-tire since a 5-tire always means you have a mis-matched sized tire on the ground. none of my vehicles have "matching" spare tires... mostly because they all ride around on expensive and directional tires; I couldn't do a crossover rotation even if I wanted to! :D all but one have full size spares now also, but they're just good tires of a matching size on a proper size rim. the oddball is the "race car". since it doesn't see as much street duty it carries the factory donut spare. that and the spare well is too small for a full-sized spare, even of OEM wheel size.

to me and in my opinion, a matching full sized spare only is required for specific-use cases, like very poor terrain off-roading. otherwise a spare is there just to get you to a proper tire facility to either repair or replace the damaged tire. I'd hope most of the people in here aren't of the "ride the donut bald!" crowd!!
 

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My TJ is by no means a DD
It will how ever drive 200 miles or more to the trail
I have 5 of the exact same tire and do my best to
rotate in the spare 5k miles a years means I only
have to do it once a year
If I blow a tire after 1/2 tread wear I buy 2
Keeping the new tires on the same axle and swapping
left to right until I blow another ,never wear out tires
with any luck I blow an old tire
Now my last tires started to dry rot before I got to
blow out the second
By blow out I mean rip a side wall on the trail
 

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I can agree that a huge mis-match like that is not only visually stupid, but has to be unsafe if it's ever used. but to focus on the OP, he's talking about tires that are probably within half an inch of total tire height comparatively. vagaries in manufacturing alone would probably cover that delta.
 

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Around here every lifted JK with bigger tires and lifted ...............is still rolling along with the stock spare hanging off the back :happy175::happy175:always looks funny
 
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