Dealer Recommended Schedule

[hyde]

Dealer Recommended Schedule

What do you think? Too much repetition? Just right?

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[JeepJeepster]

Looks about like the owners manual except for a bunch of BS crap.

According to that I shouldnt check my tire pressure till 30k.. haha

 

[LibertyFever]

That appears to be a generic maintenance schedule. Typically there's a more accurate maintenance schedule within your owner's manual. And what's involved with "Install a JB Maintenance Kit" and "Add Washer Solvent"?

A friend of mine took his 04 Libby in for routine maintenance and the dealership tried to talk him into a brake flush even though it wasn't on the maintenance schedule. Needless to say he didn't get it done.

One of the only reasons I let my dealership do my routine maintenance is to keep the warranty valid. The other reason is because there's three inches of snow on the ground under my Libby .
I hate working in the cold eek2.gif

 

[Dave]

In general I don't think it is too much to check everything over when you do an oil change. I don't think you need your tires rotated every 3,000 miles. 23 point inspection = just looking at things. What is "install JB Maintenance Kit? Is that a throttle body cleaner?? Throttle body cleaned every 3,000miles.....why??? A 12 year old can do that. Just have to be real careful not to spray the sensors. Sorry, I don't want to start picking it apart.

Looks like the dealer plagerized that from all the individual vehicles listed and combined it on to one page to use as a maintenance schedule to show people and drum up business. Remember, they are going to give you a bill and the more stuff they can put on it that they did, the better the amount they charge looks. They have overhead, Tech's to pay, etc.

This is not really a bad thing though, because they should be checking things, but sometimes it could seem like they are going overboard.

Just my opinion, Hyed.

Dave

 

[Drucifer]

. . . . I don't think you need your tires rotated every 3,000 miles. . . .

Dave

My dealer has never rotated my tires!

 

[tjkj2002]

I don't think you need your tires rotated every 3,000 miles.

That depends on the tires you have,my tires need to be rotated at least every 3000 miles to last.Those of you with the select trac t-case should have your tires rotated every 3000 miles if you use the full time option alot and any vehicle that is AWD must have there tires rotated very often to prevent major issues with the driveline.


You'd cringe over my maintance schedule,but no major failurs due to lack of maintance.I had to attend some classes for my new job and some of the info was stagering,there is about 45 billion dollars of PM maintence not done to US vehicles every year,sounds like alot HUH? Well that 45 billion of not done maintance turns into 75 billion in major repairs.That statement "Preventive Maintance is less costly then reapairs" is very,very true.If you were me and saw what I saw on a daily basis you'd be shocked,a persons vehicle is is ussually the 2nd biggest,if not the biggest, investment and they want the absolute cheapest or no maintance done to it,it's rather a dispointment and boy do they get mad at that $2000+ repair bill when less then $500 spread over 2-5 years could have prevented that one big repair bill.Sure this all does make me money,but that is my choosen trade and kinda now what I'm talking about from doing this for over 13 years professionally.

Now you don't need the best lubricants,just a good brand and don't skimp on the other services.Not all of us mechanics are crooks and do care and only recommend needed and suggested services.

 

[tommudd]

That depends on the tires you have,my tires need to be rotated at least every 3000 miles to last.Those of you with the select trac t-case should have your tires rotated every 3000 miles if you use the full time option alot and any vehicle that is AWD must have there tires rotated very often to prevent major issues with the driveline.


You'd cringe over my maintance schedule,but no major failurs due to lack of maintance.I had to attend some classes for my new job and some of the info was stagering,there is about 45 billion dollars of PM maintence not done to US vehicles every year,sounds like alot HUH? Well that 45 billion of not done maintance turns into 75 billion in major repairs.That statement "Preventive Maintance is less costly then reapairs" is very,very true.If you were me and saw what I saw on a daily basis you'd be shocked,a persons vehicle is is ussually the 2nd biggest,if not the biggest, investment and they want the absolute cheapest or no maintance done to it,it's rather a dispointment and boy do they get mad at that $2000+ repair bill when less then $500 spread over 2-5 years could have prevented that one big repair bill.Sure this all does make me money,but that is my choosen trade and kinda now what I'm talking about from doing this for over 13 years professionally.

Now you don't need the best lubricants,just a good brand and don't skimp on the other services.Not all of us mechanics are crooks and do care and only recommend needed and suggested services.

Amen!!!!!

 

[jeepkj02]

a persons vehicle is is ussually the 2nd biggest,if not the biggest, investment and they want the absolute cheapest or no maintance done to it,it's rather a dispointment and boy do they get mad at that $2000+ repair bill when less then $500 spread over 2-5 years could have prevented that one big repair bill.

I couldn't agree more with that statement. Its really annoying when someone says "Jeeps are the worst cars, because...." I had to replace my ****** x amount of times or my engine died at 100,000 miles....

Well when was the last time you change the fluid in your transmission....

...uhh.....your suppose to do that!!! STUPID!!! Oh well!!!

 

[Ry' N Jen]

Preventative maintenance although costly at times, for me will always be cheaper than road side or (knock wood) trail side catastrophic component failure.

I've had the displeasure of $600.00 tow bill from the North Rim of the Grand Canyon to Page Arizona! Why? A sunk foat in a 460cid carb in a E350.
The repair was cheaper than the tow!

They forgot to list wash the vehicle

 

[hyde]

Preventative maintenance, Hah! The dealer does not even do half of the stuff they say they do. You go in for a brake job, they mess it up even more and find a way to cover themselves, they use cheaper stuff..

I would have to say, stick to manual during first 6 years, maybe 5, after that get those stuff done at somewhere else. My dealer(s) never even rotated the tires once. They said they do, but never did it once. For the amount they charge, the job they do is generally less than half of that. Honestly, if it was a great mechanic, friendly and honest, i wouldn't care less, well worth it, do your job and you deserve it. But dealers, the mechanic there could care less.. (most of the time).

You go in for an oil change, they will try to rip you off with differential, t-case, ******, brake, battery and fuel injection jobs.

 

[Ry' N Jen]

Preventative maintenance, Hah! The dealer does not even do half of the stuff they say they do. You go in for a brake job, they mess it up even more and find a way to cover themselves, they use cheaper stuff..

I would have to say, stick to manual during first 6 years, maybe 5, after that get those stuff done at somewhere else. My dealer(s) never even rotated the tires once. They said they do, but never did it once. For the amount they charge, the job they do is generally less than half of that. Honestly, if it was a great mechanic, friendly and honest, i wouldn't care less, well worth it, do your job and you deserve it. But dealers, the mechanic there could care less.. (most of the time).

You go in for an oil change, they will try to rip you off with differential, t-case, ******, brake, battery and fuel injection jobs.

I agree to some of the issues you point out! But like TJKJ mentions, not all mechanics are crooks and not all Dealerships are dishonest.
The last major service we had done was within $40.00 of their quote. They not only rotated the tires, they actually cleaned each wheel while off the Jeep on the front and back-inside as well!
Not to mention that they included a complimentary detail of the whole vehicle.

The auto industry is a service based industry. And like all other service based industries, they are there to earn money.
You ever have a pair of down hill skiis tuned or repaired?
A proper job runs about $70 for a tune of the base,edge,bindings. $10 max in supplies and $60.00 in labour.
Takes a excellent skii tech about 20 minits to do!
In 20 years in the Mountaineering business I've never heard a complaint about price.

 

[jnaut]

The best thing I did was prepay for my PM schedule on the Jeep. The whole prepay was like $1200. Had I paid out of pocket for all those oil changes, tcase and diff changes plus inspections, I'd be out way more than $1200. However, if a dealer doesn't offer that option, I can hardly fault someone for cringing at some of the dealer recommended maintenances. If I read my forms correct, the 60,000 mile service alone would have cost me like $1,000. Given those numbers, I'm going to be doing a lot of my own PM after the dealer program expires at the end of my warranty.

In the end, though, it's really just a gamble. Depending on how you use your Jeep, you may not need a particularly aggressive schedule. Unless you're leaking oil, if you use a good synthetic, the 3000 mile change is a myth. Here's a good article on the subject of 3000mile drain intervals:

http://genxfinance.com/2007/05/29/dont-be-fooled-into-thinking-an-oil-change-every-3000-miles-is-necessary/

 

[hyde]

jnaut, I agree. A tune up costs over $500 with all the stuff they do, and t-case, differential service combined with brake job costs $1000.

 

[offrovering]

just do the factory schedule, they have tested it.

fluids, spark plugs, lubrication, and filters changed on a good basis will keep it running unless you have an electrical lemon, which happens from time to time.

Oh and also, if you liked playing with legos growing up, and enjoy trying/learning new things - buy yourself a nice tool set, spend some time with the factory manual and start doing things yourself, you will surprise yourself with your own skills as you go

 

[Ry' N Jen]

Doing it yourself is very simple once you have figured out what you are doing. (I've been doing it for 30 years!)
Even though I'm a gimp for the last 5 years, I'm about to start doing everything myself again due to the fact that it is just out right less (note I didn't use the word cheaper) expensive.
Beleive me, I was none too impressed with what I paid at the dealership!
That chart is definitely made to generate income for the dealership, which in turn pays all the over head, staff, etc, and hey, that's what makes for a good economy.

What I don't get are the people who wank about automotive service charges
but they spend $150.00 on one hockey ticket!
Now, IMO, that is $150.00 that can be better spent on my Jeep or Mini!

 

[Mangate]

Is the "Complete Body Lube" for you or the Jeep?

 

[hyde]

At those prices, for "you" I assume.. They gotta prep.

 

[Signe]

Wanna know what I can't figure out?

Before my Libby, I had a '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD). Since it didn't come with the towing package, my guess is it didn't have a heavy duty radiator or cooling system. Anyway, I had the coolant service done at 48k miles. I was supposed to do it again at 96k, but never got around to it. When I got to around 111k, I started having cooling problems. I don't want to go into details, but I'll say the cost to fix the cooling problems simply weren't worth it. I traded it in on my Libby.

IIRC, my Libby's owner's manual indicates the first cooling service isn't until 99k. That's more than twice as many miles as my Cherokee. Why is this? My Libby came with the towing package from the factory, but to my knowledge, it doesn't have a heavy-duty cooling system.

 

[tjkj2002]

Wanna know what I can't figure out?

Before my Libby, I had a '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport (2WD). Since it didn't come with the towing package, my guess is it didn't have a heavy duty radiator or cooling system. Anyway, I had the coolant service done at 48k miles. I was supposed to do it again at 96k, but never got around to it. When I got to around 111k, I started having cooling problems. I don't want to go into details, but I'll say the cost to fix the cooling problems simply weren't worth it. I traded it in on my Libby.

IIRC, my Libby's owner's manual indicates the first cooling service isn't until 99k. That's more than twice as many miles as my Cherokee. Why is this? My Libby came with the towing package from the factory, but to my knowledge, it doesn't have a heavy-duty cooling system.

Different coolant.Your XJ had the older green coolant which needs to be changed every 2 years.The coolant in all 2001+ Chrysler vehicles is supposed to be good for 5 years/150,000miles,though If changed mine twice already in 7 years and 65,000miles.