04-05 KJ rear Control Arms Recall Coming...

[tjkj2002]

So only those year liberties and no other car ,truck or suv
gets exposed to salt?
Or by your reasoning only people who bought those
year KJ's do a poor job of "maintainin" their vehicles
I just don't see where you can say that because
a company made a lower quality part or used a lower
quality paint should require a higher level of maintaince
on the part of the owner
That would be like me ******* because my wife's VW
requires super unleaded to get the advertised mpg
and power
We knew when we bought it what was required
When people bought those KJ's no one said
"keep in mind these have a crappy paint job on the
rear lca's so you have to do an extra special job
on cleaning them"
Sorry dude it is not the customers problem

Your not understanding that the recall is only affecting KJ's in salt belt states and only those old enough for the salt to eat through the steel.If there was actually a issue with the control arms every KJ after '03 would be part of the recall,every single one all the way to '07 and all over the world but no they are only calling out specific years in specific regions of the country due to salt use.Which by the way is also stated in the recall if you read it.

Singling out some but not all for salt/rust issues is customer neglect.

 

[J-Thompson]

Your not understanding that the recall is only affecting KJ's in salt belt states and only those old enough for the salt to eat through the steel.If there was actually a issue with the control arms every KJ after '03 would be part of the recall,every single one all the way to '07 and all over the world but no they are only calling out specific years in specific regions of the country due to salt use.Which by the way is also stated in the recall if you read it.

Singling out some but not all for salt/rust issues is customer neglect.

You still loose
Unless it is printed in the owners manual about a specific
cleaning schedule and the dealer offers it then salt is the
cause but cleaning will not help
IIRC Mitsubishi recalled a select group of cars
sold in a select area due to paint fade
Maybe they should have just told the
customers to do a a better job waxing their hoods

The LCA's are cheep
They are painted
If they found that the paint was bad
Rather than risk law suit they simply replace them

Maybe I should wash my Jeep better
I ignore the top and wash the bottom
that may be why it looks like it does

 

[MSReNeGaDe]

You still loose
Unless it is printed in the owners manual about a specific
cleaning schedule and the dealer offers it then salt is the
cause but cleaning will not help
IIRC Mitsubishi recalled a select group of cars
sold in a select area due to paint fade
Maybe they should have just told the
customers to do a a better job waxing their hoods

The LCA's are cheep
They are painted
If they found that the paint was bad
Rather than risk law suit they simply replace them

Maybe I should wash my Jeep better
I ignore the top and wash the bottom
that may be why it looks like it does

If you never go off pavement that will be fine 7 months out of the year

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[tjkj2002]

You still loose
Unless it is printed in the owners manual about a specific
cleaning schedule and the dealer offers it then salt is the
cause but cleaning will not help
IIRC Mitsubishi recalled a select group of cars
sold in a select area due to paint fade
Maybe they should have just told the
customers to do a a better job waxing their hoods

The LCA's are cheep
They are painted
If they found that the paint was bad
Rather than risk law suit they simply replace them

Maybe I should wash my Jeep better
I ignore the top and wash the bottom
that may be why it looks like it does

So what's not wrong with the same paint on the same control arms on a '04 KJ that is in CA? Or CO? Or TX? Same part and same paint.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

Mine are as black as they get, but I'm still going to see if I can get some new ones. I wash it once a week with the undercarriage, and paint them semi annually...

 

[MSReNeGaDe]

Mine are as black as they get, but I'm still going to see if I can get some new ones. I wash it once a week with the undercarriage, and paint them semi annually...

People shouldn't be expected to paint them semi annually. How many other suvs do you see with control arm recalls? Clearly there was a problem that Firestone employees weren't priveledge to

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[Ry' N Jen]

People shouldn't be expected to paint them semi annually. How many other suvs do you see with control arm recalls? Clearly there was a problem that Firestone employees weren't priveledge to

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Firestone?

 

[MSReNeGaDe]

Firestone?

Sorry. Should have put "persons with sand in their ***" instead. He's been raging on every topic recently and it was starting to confuse me why he's so angry. The giant sand dune that got lost in there must really be irritating.

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[J-Thompson]

So what's not wrong with the same paint on the same control arms on a '04 KJ that is in CA? Or CO? Or TX? Same part and same paint.

Same problem
But nothing in CA to cause an issue

 

[tjkj2002]

Same problem
But nothing in CA to cause an issue

Then why no recalled KJ's in CA? TX? and all other non-salt belt states? Show me proof that they are failing in those states also?

 

[tjkj2002]

Sorry. Should have put "persons with sand in their ***" instead. He's been raging on every topic recently and it was starting to confuse me why he's so angry. The giant sand dune that got lost in there must really be irritating.

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Funny thing is your stating I have sand in my *** when your the one selling beauty products online.

 

[Ry' N Jen]

Singling out some but not all for salt/rust issues is customer neglect.

I don't see it a customer neglect.
I see it as Chrysler building/using substandard parts in the manufacturing/construction of the Jeep Liberty.
Nowhere in the owners manual does it state that the owner/operator is responsible for the cleaning and removing of caustic material which will cause harmful corrosion to the vehicles under carriage or it's parts.
If anything, it's Chryslers lack of responsibility for not applying a factory undercoating to the Liberty's under carriage and it's components to ensure they build a solid vehicle.

Instead Chrysler leaves the undercoating upto the indepndant dealerships as a means to generate more profit for the dealership in the form as an add on sale at point of purchase.

There are also other reasons why there are factory recalls.
It generates work orders for dealerships to carry out the recall repairs.
Keeps the dealerships in business!

For Chrysler it is just one huge tax write off.
Don't think for a second that Chrysler is not aware that parts/components wear out or get damaged due to this "Salt belt area!"

Every vehicle manufacture has recalls these days...

That is the way every automobile manufactures do business!
Regardless of the price of the vehicle.

 

[tjkj2002]

I don't see it a customer neglect.
I see it as Chrysler building/using substandard parts in the manufacturing/construction of the Jeep Liberty.
Nowhere in the owners manual does it state that the owner/operator is responsible for the cleaning and removing of caustic material which will cause harmful corrosion to the vehicles under carriage or it's parts.
If anything, it's Chryslers lack of responsibility for not applying a factory undercoating to the Liberty's under carriage and it's components to ensure they build a solid vehicle.

Instead Chrysler leaves the undercoating upto the indepndant dealerships as a means to generate more profit for the dealership in the form as an add on sale at point of purchase.

There are also other reasons why there are factory recalls.
It generates work orders for dealerships to carry out the recall repairs.
Keeps the dealerships in business!

For Chrysler it is just one huge tax write off.
Don't think for a second that Chrysler is not aware that parts/components wear out or get damaged due to this "Salt belt area!"

Every vehicle manufacture has recalls these days...

That is the way every automobile manufactures do business!
Regardless of the price of the vehicle.

Page 316 from the '04 owners manual.........................

Special Care
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If you drive on salted or dusty roads or if you drive
near the ocean, hose off the undercarriage at least once​

a month.

Again owner neglect,it's stated right in the owners manual.

 

[MSReNeGaDe]

Funny thing is your stating I have sand in my *** when your the one selling beauty products online.

I sell nutrilite sir. The other stuff is there because i can offer it as well. Why sell Chrysler when you can get dodge and jeep for free with it? We have something called rhodiola. It will mellow you out.

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[J-Thompson]

What a joke
Hose it once a month?
You or they have never seen what a month can
do to poorly protected equipment near salt water
But trust me hosing it once a month is ******* on
a forest fire

 

[rockymountain]

What a joke
Hose it once a month?
You or they have never seen what a month can
do to poorly protected equipment near salt water
But trust me hosing it once a month is ******* on
a forest fire

I tend to agree with that, heck you go to the store and back in the dead of winter they'll be just as bad. I don't tend to have a hose handy in the winter either. I don't want an icy driveway. Once I found my truck had slid into the street. Was kind of funny, but that's another story.

 

[Ry' N Jen]

Interesting!
Nothing like that in our 2004 owners manual.
But hey, this is a Canadian spec Jeep Liberty.

BTW, our Rear control arms look fine...
But I do regular cleaning underneath our KJ.

 

[Ohio-white-kj]

Page 316 from the '04 owners manual.........................



Again owner neglect,it's stated right in the owners manual.

Hell - I do mine at least once a week or once per snow storm.

They look like crap - hell, just noticed today the trailer htch needs touched up, dam factory powdercoat come off in chunks.

Maybe too MUCH washing )

 

[tommudd]

Powdercoat is not the end all no matter who puts it on. My ARB has some coming off of it as well, Do I blame Chrsler for that as well
Mine is fine underneath due to washing it all the time and also if there is any rusty looking places I take care of them, don't let it go till it rusts through then complain about it.
Have to take care of the vehicles if you want them to take care of you. Trash them and you have a pile of rust in three years

 

[J-Thompson]

My rock sliders look like crap
I wash them when they get muddy
every time it rains and I drive in it
the spray from the tires cleans them
But they are scratched and have surface rust
Maybe Krylon should send me a free can of paint