Actual Lift Amount - Lets Compare Fender Heights

Discussion in 'Lift Kit Discussion' started by long_tall_texan, May 24, 2009.

  1. streetglideok

    streetglideok Full Access Member

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    I could see that much easily. I'm running no ISO in the rear with Ironman springs, and came out 22". The front, I was at 20" or so with just Ironman. Now over the weekend, I made some changes, and added the JBA top plate, and clevis lift, and was at 22.5 before I aligned. OME front springs tend to give a little more lift from what I have seen. I'm going to have to put JBA arms in next, before my tires wear too much.
     
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    I guess you have no CV joint issues at 22.5"? Thanks
     
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    Yes loosen and then bounce the front some and then retighten them.
    The lower iso's will work but not as well as uppers.
    If the top plate in front is 3/8 of an inch plus 1/2 inch clevis you have way too much in there. We do 3/8 inch clevis and 1/4 inch top plate so that alone is giving you 3/4 of an inch or more than we normally do. So yes you are going to have issues with the CVs.
    First loosen the UCAs and get them where they should be, then after doing the rear see where you are but I'd say you'll be over 4 inches so you'll have UCA/ spring contact

    On the conduit nuts we do 3 per side , they are 1/8 inch thick so you have 3/8 of an inch which gives you 3/4 inch of lift ( with your spacer its giving you an inch )

    REREADING ................
    I see you are at 23, so with redoing the UCAs and then after alignment you'll be in the 22.25-22.50 range is my best guess. So 3.25-3.50 inches of true lift over new stock. Best thing is what I stated above on the UCAs , do the rear and then see where you are after a short drive
     
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    No issues at 22.5 , you can go more than that but what gets everyone no matter if you are two or four wheel drive is upper control arm/ spring contact. It occurs at 22.75-23 inches anymore and you have lots of noise on every bump. Trust me been there :icon_biggrin:
    Now with the coilover setup, they are smaller diameter so can go more like mine is now at 23.50 ( 4.5 inches of lift )
     
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    Thanks, Tom! Will do. Learning as I go but I think the end result will be great. Hope to finish it all up tomorrow. Take care.
     
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    Added some on my first post , good luck
    All have to get the IFS Learning Curve sometime
    I'm still learning after 30 plus lifts and redoing mine every other month for 8 years :signs1:
     
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    I didn't feel anything in my cv shafts turning them by hand with the wheels hanging in full extension, however just as Tom said, I have spring to control arm contact. Normal driving, it's not an issue, but it will be in the future when the trails start to reopen. I'll be adding JBA arms in the future. If budget allows, DTT diffs, a backbone, and a winch next year.
     
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    Should of said at 23 or a little less on some, you'll have UCA/spring contact even with JBA UCAs
     
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    I know some guys don't like them, and some do, but do the Rocky Road arms give any more spring clearance than the JBA arms?
     
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    No RROs do not since they "copied" the JBA 4.0 arms
    of course now JBA has upgraded to the 4.5s
     
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    What was upgraded on the 4.5's?
     
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    Little different design/ balljoint placement-mounting

    Haven't looked at RROs for a good while to see if they have " borrowed" the new design or not, assume they will though if they haven't already
     
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    Just got back from my mechanic. While there I measured mine. The suspension is bone stock to my knowledge. It is 18 3/4 in front and 19 3/4 in the rear. It's the same on both sides. Does this indicate that maybe it was made before Chrysler decided to lower the Libertys? It is a 2002 and I have 134,000 miles on it.
     
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    If built before April 12, 2002 then it would be 3/4 inches higher when new
     
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    How can I find out the build date?
     
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    Chrysler will email you a build sheet (no charge) if you request one. I also got one from here: CompNine VIN Decoder . It's also free for one search and you should get the results right away. It was 100% accurate as far as I can remember.
     
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    Thanks Prof!
     
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    Actually, I just compared the one from CompNine and the one from Chrysler. The only place I saw the Build date (September 19, 2006 for my 2007 model) was at CompNine.
     
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    Here is what it returned... It was build one day before my dearly departed mother's birthday that year.

     
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    Do they still give a free complete report? As I recall, they let you have something like up to three free ones when I got mine. They make their money off the traders and dealers.