Rubicon Wheels 16 with BFG AT 265-70-R16

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Have a 2004 KJ with OME Lift, Al-arms, teraflex front bumpstops and (2) hockey puck on the rear, now i will upgrade my wheels with the rubicon moab 16 and i was wonder if i can fit BFG AT 265/70/R16 with out trim? any one with this configuration? or is better to use BFG AT 245/75/R16?

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Same height basically as the 245-75-16s
Little bit wider than the 245-75-16s
actually a better fit on the Moabs than the 245-75-16s being they are wider
so you will have some rub on the sway bar fully turned
as far as other rubbing may have some on the front of the wheelwell in front

Kind of hard to say for sure since we don't know if you only have the OME lift or if you have added the clevis and top plate , extra details help a lot when answering
 

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thanks, only OME lift with one ring clevis lift, nothing else in the front and neither on the back

21.5" fender height all around
 

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Put a 3/8 clevis lift 3 rings and a 1/4 or 3/8 top plate your choise and it will get close to 23" and you'll be ok.
That's what I did to mine and I'm sitting right at 23" in the front. But listen to Tom everything I know he told me. Lol
 
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Put a 3/8 clevis lift 3 rings and a 1/4 or 3/8 top plate your choise and it will get close to 23" and you'll be ok.
That's what I did to mine and I'm sitting right at 23" in the front. But listen to Tom everything I know he told me. Lol

It's actually safer sitting closer to the 22- 22.5 range.
 

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Rubicon wheels with BFG AT 245-70-R16

Well, i decided to still use the same old tires 245-70-R16 with the Moab wheels and I have some rubbing in the front trim (fog light doors) at full lock and with out flex

So, if I want to upgrade to 245-75-R16 (not any more 265-70-R16), i need to increase the actual 21.5" fender height to at least 22.5", is this correct?

On the other side, i don't have any rubbing at the pinch weld, probably with the 245-75 will do!

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Pretty narrow tire for a 8 inch wide wheel
Yes you'll need to be in the 22.25 to 22.5 to run 245-75-16s and pound over the pinch weld
 

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If you reshape the area where your rubbing right now with the heat gun / bfh on pinch weld. You will have no issues after adding the top plate to your set up.

Higher then 22 inches would be better on those moabs 245 75 16 combo your going for.

Mine give a slight rub on the front after reshaping at 22 inches when in reverse.
 

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So, is a Moab wheel (8 inch) a better fit for a 245-75-16 or is a seven inch rim better?
 

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So, is a Moab wheel (8 inch) a better fit for a 245-75-16 or is a seven inch rim better?

Actually a 245-75-16 sits on a 7 inch wide wheel better, even 265-75-16 does .
Now some will say well thats what came on the Rubicons so it works.
Now it does but the only reason they came on the Rubys was the simple fact Jeep wanted to advertise an 8 inch wheel and 30 inch tall tires. The combination fit the advertising
 

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moab wheels

An eight inch wheel won't work then? Or would bulge the tire out too bad?:hands:
 
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An eight inch wheel won't work then? Or would bulge the tire out too bad?:hands:

8 inches work on 245 75 16 but its not ideal. They were the factory size for those rims for the wranglers in that era.

It basically looks (depending on tire) like the sidewalls go straight down to the rim with little protection for rim and more prone to poping the bead sealing air in the tire. Made worse by airing down.
 

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8 inches work on 245 75 16 but its not ideal. They were the factory size for those rims for the wranglers in that era.

It basically looks (depending on tire) like the sidewalls go straight down to the rim with little protection for rim and more prone to poping the bead sealing air in the tire. Made worse by airing down.

What about with a Duratrac? Would they still be sitting (too) flush with the wheel?

Trying to decide on a set of Moabs ... hmmmm :pimp:
 

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16X7 with 4 inch backspacing sits the same as a 16X8 with 5 inches of backspacing ( same as the MOABs )
But back to the 245-75-16s it spreads the beads out more than ideal
 

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What about with a Duratrac? Would they still be sitting (too) flush with the wheel?

Trying to decide on a set of Moabs ... hmmmm :pimp:

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Looks like that, not ideal but i'm running it. It is still within manufactures state tolerances for that tire. Just on the wrong edge of the bracket.

Went to Maui this summer, proof that some don't read recommendations for tires on rims whatsoever. Pretty sure i saw 10.5's on a 12 inch rim at one point. Looked like beach balls. Coworker is running 265 70 17 Toyo OC MT on a 9 inch rim and it really doesn't look right.

Back to my choice, I Didn't find anything in 265 70 16 that i wanted to run. However, GY Silent armors, FS Dest AT, and BFG ATKO are in that size.

I think you can get BFG KM2's in 255 70 16 but i drive on far to much ice for those to be considered.
 
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Looks good to me :waytogo:

I didn't know the Mambas were 8" ... I see the difference (8" vs 7") but it's not as much as I thought.

I was actually thinking about getting some really good winter tires and putting them on the stock rims, and putting the Duratracs on the Moabs. I need more ice traction. The Duratracs are great on snowy/icy gravel and dirt but I need to use my part time a lot on slick pavement (blacktop). It's just a sipe/rubber compound thing :D
 

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Looks good to me :waytogo:

I didn't know the Mambas were 8" ... I see the difference (8" vs 7") but it's not as much as I thought.

I was actually thinking about getting some really good winter tires and putting them on the stock rims, and putting the Duratracs on the Moabs. I need more ice traction. The Duratracs are great on snowy/icy gravel and dirt but I need to use my part time a lot on slick pavement (blacktop). It's just a sipe/rubber compound thing :D

Stud a set. you in northern ontario? should be legal there.
Measurements on the mambas are in my albums.
 
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