Suspension pop while turning or hitting a bump

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Theres a video on YouTube of a girl popping them out like its nothing with a crowbar and reinstalling them in under 10 minutes

I've seen a few videos like that myself, though the girl didn't usually use a crowbar... :893karatesmiley-thu
 

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Jason, I'm going to email you a series of photos and I want you to tell me if it seems like anything is wrong. Tom, if I can email you as well that'd be nice. I'm seeing something and I'm thinking they really messed my KJ up.

And might I add that they also kept trying to blame it on the alignment guy. I'm still on stock shocks and springs.
 

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Jason, I'm going to email you a series of photos and I want you to tell me if it seems like anything is wrong. Tom, if I can email you as well that'd be nice. I'm seeing something and I'm thinking they really messed my KJ up.

And might I add that they also kept trying to blame it on the alignment guy. I'm still on stock shocks and springs.

will PM you my email addy
 

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Just sent them! I found the problem. The spring isn't even sitting on the upper spring perch (or whatever the technical name of it is) correctly. End of the coil isn't in the divot.
 

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Just sent them! I found the problem. The spring isn't even sitting on the upper spring perch (or whatever the technical name of it is) correctly. End of the coil isn't in the divot.



Called it! Like I said, you need to hold the spring in alignment with that divot/notch in the upper spring seat; otherwise when you undo the spring compressor after tightening the top mount nut, it spins on ya.

Happened to me twice putting mine together. And my spring was kinked like that too.

Send me more pics if you want and I can upload here.
 

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What did they do to that top plate and why ?
Looks like someone was trying to weld on it or ??
And yes they did not seat the spring in there correctly, couldn't they see that
Don't see how the shock is not bent by now, ya know
 

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Just sent them! I found the problem. The spring isn't even sitting on the upper spring perch (or whatever the technical name of it is) correctly. End of the coil isn't in the divot.

What did they do to that top plate and why ?
Looks like someone was trying to weld on it or ??
And yes they did not seat the spring in there correctly, couldn't they see that
Don't see how the shock is not bent by now, ya know

I didn't get the second set of photos.. but I'm guessing it looks bad, eh?
 

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The shop told me they welded the stud heads to the new top hat so they wouldn't work their way loose.

Also, I just forwarded the email to you Jason
 

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Completely unrelated to the suspension thread but, I'm thinking of buying 16x8 0 offset pro comp Stryker wheels. Are they decent? Or should I just stick to the 16x8 soft 8's I was originally going to buy
 

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Completely unrelated to the suspension thread but, I'm thinking of buying 16x8 0 offset pro comp Stryker wheels. Are they decent? Or should I just stick to the 16x8 soft 8's I was originally going to buy

16X7 with 4 inches of backspacing, when lifted is better
8 inch wide with 5 inches of backspacing
what you are looking at will give a bunch of issues especially with your lift
plus needing a wider tires which will rub everywhere in front
But get your lift straightened out first
 

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The shop told me they welded the stud heads to the new top hat so they wouldn't work their way loose.

Also, I just forwarded the email to you Jason

Seriously, if you brought that to me to repair I would toss everything and start over with good parts
 

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The shop told me they welded the stud heads to the new top hat so they wouldn't work their way loose.

Also, I just forwarded the email to you Jason

Got them. What the sweet hell is that crap!!!!!???

As I understand it, some of these spacer lifts require you to press out the OE top mount studs and press them into the lift kits' top mount plate, is that what they did here? And then so they didn't back out, they welded them?

First of all... that's beyond stupid. If you have properly torqued nuts on the other side, in the engine bay- where you access them- then it's impossible for them to work loose. They're torqued and sandwiched in there.

Freaking idiots working on your KJ bud.

Also, hold off on thinking about wheels until you can get this suspension thing sorted out.. I know wheels are fun and cool, but as it is with the extra stresses on your coil spring and other components, your Jeep is rather unsafe to drive as it is.
 

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Seriously, if you brought that to me to repair I would toss everything and start over with good parts

Same.. you just can't trust that anything in there is not damaged or out of spec now.

That's what they call "shit-canning" the entire thing and starting over.

Oh yeah first things first the lift is being straightened out first. Was just wondering for future reference

Zero offset.... kinda thinking that is going to push it out way too far.. under suspension flex that would cause the tire/wheel combo to come up right into the fender flare.

Wouldn't it, Tom?
 

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Definitely sorting the suspension out first. And yes it came with separate top hats to press the studs into. They said they welded them on the bottom side as a precaution.

0 offset would set it flush with the fender or half an inch out. Which is where I want it. I know itll put stress on ball joints and whatnot but that's just par for the course. I'm planning on doing some bumper trimming.
 
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I'll email you and Tom some pictures of the KJ if you want to post them here since I cant. So you can see wheel gap and all that goof stuff
 

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Definitely sorting the suspension out first. And yes it came with separate top hats to press the studs into. They said they welded them on the bottom side as a precaution.

0 offset would set it flush with the fender or half an inch out. Which is where I want it. I know itll put stress on ball joints and whatnot but that's just par for the course. I'm planning on doing some bumper trimming.

But it doesn't have to be that way.

I'll email you and Tom some pictures of the KJ if you want to post them here since I cant. So you can see wheel gap and all that goof stuff

Looks good.. I'll upload via tapatalk (easier than linking to imgur).
 

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Thank you! Light bar is going away soon. I'm going to mount 2 KC or PIAA lights there instead. Lightbar was a dumb mistake. Has cause more issues than expected. Actually failed and caused a fire in the cab. Had to replace the kick panel on the drivers side. Have factory fogs coming in too. Since mine had the lenses melted off of them (don't ask lol)
 

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Thank you! Light bar is going away soon. I'm going to mount 2 KC or PIAA lights there instead. Lightbar was a dumb mistake. Has cause more issues than expected. Actually failed and caused a fire in the cab. Had to replace the kick panel on the drivers side. Have factory fogs coming in too. Since mine had the lenses melted off of them (don't ask lol)



I Recommend the Hella 500 FF.

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