Extended bumpstops instead of hockey pucks for OME lift?

[paullgj]

Hi,

Another lift question. I need to get all the info. before I start. I'm planning on OME lift - 927 springs front, 948 rear, no additional isolators, spacers, etc. Daystar has an extended bumpstop for the rear:

http://www.daystarweb.com/productdetail.php?productID=351

Can I use this instead of the hockey pucks? I want to prevent the longer coil springs from binding. Or do I need both, the extended bumpstop and hockey pucks for the rear?

I'm sure I'll have some more questions, but I have to have all the homework done before I take the Liberty apart - it is a 2007 Sport 4wd.

Gene, in Brownsville, Texas

 

[incommando]

You can use most any bumpstop in the rear as long as the height is correct. I am at work and cannot see pics, but most have a poly end with a single bolt out of them. Drill the appropriate hole size & you are done.

This is a common one: KU09006BK

 

[Atrus]

You'd just need one or the other - the idea is that for every inch of lift you need to add an inch of bumpstop. So, whether it's the longer actual stop on the top, or adding pucks to raise the base plate, it has the same effect. I think most people do pucks as they are cheaper.

I plan to go to Harbor Freight and pick up a $2 rubber mallet and use that.

 

[paullgj]

Hi Budke,

Yes, I saw your how to, and I'm trying to locate some hockey pucks. South Texas is about the same as Florida, not a lot of hockey here. Your post was quite helpful and now I have an idea of what needs to be done.

Gene

 

[HoosierJeeper]

Even Sports Authority or DICK's (Sporting goods shop, get your mind out of the gutter ) didn't have them?

 

[Atrus]

If pucks aren't available, get a rubber mallet and cut it in half. It's what I plan on doing

Really, anything durable would work. I think Hockey pucks were used at some point by someone because they are durable (weatehr resistant), cheap, and about the proper size.

 

[J-Thompson]

There are 2 main reasons for extended bump stops
#1 over compression of your shocks
shocks are not designed to hold up the weight of a Jeep
they are designed to hold the axle on the Jeep ,extension
#2 tire rubbing
there are metal things under your Jeep that can cut your
tires or things that your tires will rip off
there are other reasons but they are much less important
if your rig is set up properly ,correct coils for your set up
so ask your self
do you really need them?

 

[Atrus]

I've fabricated mine up and think I have about $7 into the pair. Cheap insurance. May not need them....probably don't need Medical Insurance this year either, but I pay out the ass for it

Just playing Devil's Advocate to your Devil's Advocate J-T. No offense meant.

 

[sevenhelmet]

I've read that the OME suspension doesn't require extended bumpstops as long as you use the OME shocks. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[J-Thompson]

Yes that is correct. As long as you use only OME stuff and don't mix anything with that.

And don't use the OME 132L rear shocks!

And don't put on bigger tires and offset rims and/or spacers.

Then you don't need bumpstops.

wrong on the tires
I ran OME med springs at all 4 corners with rancho struts and OME shocks
ran 245/75 MTR's on oe wheels
only rub ,that bump stops would have helped, was at very full stuff
and we are talking 1 rear wheel a foot off the ground and the other stuffed
then I got a slight rub that maybe 1/2" of bump stop would have prevented

 

[sevenhelmet]

Cool. Thanks. When I put the OME parts in, I will probably install extended bump stops anyway, just to be sure. I get mild rubbing at full stuff as it is with a stock suspension.

 

[tommudd]

This is with 4 inches of lift and two inches of bumpstops, think what it would be without. I would never run one without even with stock tires and wheels due to I don't like my springs to completely stack.

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[J-Thompson]

Tony
how am I contradicting my self?
you are the one who said that you can not run larger tires
I am the one who DID run larger tires

sevenhelmet
your rub is from your rims not your suspension

Tom
your rub is from improper suspension set up
or mixing springs with spacers

The fact is simple
OME was the one who said that you would not need extended bump stops on a KJ
as long as you were using the proper springs for that KJ and not mix matching parts
they are the expert not the rest of you clowns
my info is always based on 1 of 2 things
1 what I have done ,run bigger tires with out bump stops
2 what has more than once been quoted here and on other forums by more than 1 person and that was OME saying that with a proper suspension set up on a KJ
or their springs and the N132 shocks you would not need extended bump stops
yet over and over the same clowns will get on and misinform people and preach it like it is gospel

 

[tommudd]

I would say US CLOWNS have as many or more miles of actual testing than OME does actually driving KJs on roads and trails!
OME is covering their behinds is what it is pure and simple. Use their setup and be 1.5 inches higher than stock then no problems , well you can go higher and have a much better setup and it works.
AND I HAVE AN IMPROPER SETUP????
My first set of OME coils with Rancho shocks lasted me over 100,000 miles and is now on another KJ so how did I have an improper set up if it lasted that long??????????????????????(censored)
Bet you never put that many miles on any lifted vehicle!
We all know you like to argue the point of bumpstops but years of experience have shown me what is good and what is not. What is cheap insurance and what is not.

Before you start calling other people clowns better wipe the makeup off of your face before looking in the mirror

YOU DO KNOW YOU CAN DISAGREE WITHOUT CALLING OTHER PEOPLE CLOWNS AND OTHER NAMES THAT YOU LIKE TO USE DON'T YOU? WELL MAYBE YOU DON'T. I HOPE SOMEDAY YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL LIFE AND NOT HAVE A CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER
GOOD DAY

 

[Atrus]

Again...

Rubber Mallet @ Harbor Freight - $2.99
M8x70ish bolts - $1.98
washers and nylon locknut - <$2.

So, we're at a max of $7.42 with MI sales tax. Cheap insurance IMO whether I need them or not. The Big Mac I had yesterday for lunch cost me $6.02 or something stoopid like that, so I think I can spare the $7.50.

 

[J-Thompson]

Tom
get over your self
first I used the term clowns as a joke had I been serious
it would have read jerks or worse
now
how could I have missed the fact that you know more then
one of the WORLD leaders in suspension
man to be as smart and as great as you must be a huge burdon
on you neck carrying around that huge head full of all that knowledge

Then there is the improper suspension
yes yours was
mixing OME with Rancho is ,in the eyes of OME, improper
see there shocks were designed to be used with stock length
bump stops the Rancho shocks were not thus making them
the improper part no question there

 

[J-Thompson]

Oh yeah as far as how many miles I have put on a lifted any thing
nope I get bored to fast
let's see in the past 12 years
2 lifted YJ's ,1 of which is still some what in use at 130k
1 lifted Ranger ,first IFS ranger in the state
1 TJ ,still the best yet and it will never see 100k because it sees less than
5k a year as a TRAIL rig not a DD
and a lifted KJ
all OME and no spring stacking or other issues after 50k

so yeah I probably don't know much about suspension
I mean 2 with leaves
1 with torsion bars and leaves
1 with 5 link coil that will be converted to 4 link soon enough
and 1 with Coil over or strut and 3 link
what would I know?

 

[paullgj]

Why OME 132L shocks need bumpstops and 132 don't?

Yes that is correct. As long as you use only OME stuff and don't mix anything with that.

And don't use the OME 132L rear shocks!

And don't put on bigger tires and offset rims and/or spacers.

Then you don't need bumpstops.

Why would the OME 132L require the longer bumpstops and the 132 do not? Do the OME 132L permit more wheel travel? I'm in the process of researching suspension kits for my 2007 KJ and I've been reading every one of these posts to gather as much info. as possible. I want as few as complications as possible when I do install. Right now I'm pretty much settled on OME 927 springs front, 948 rear, OME shocks all around with 132L rear, terraflex bumpstops front, daystar extended bumpstops rear. The wheels are stock 16 x 7 and will stay with them, tires, either 255/70 or 245/75 x 16.

Thanks for all who have contributed to this thread.

 

[Atrus]

Why would the OME 132L require the longer bumpstops and the 132 do not? Do the OME 132L permit more wheel travel? I'm in the process of researching suspension kits for my 2007 KJ and I've been reading every one of these posts to gather as much info. as possible. I want as few as complications as possible when I do install. Right now I'm pretty much settled on OME 927 springs front, 948 rear, OME shocks all around with 132L rear, terraflex bumpstops front, daystar extended bumpstops rear. The wheels are stock 16 x 7 and will stay with them, tires, either 255/70 or 245/75 x 16.

Thanks for all who have contributed to this thread.

Yes, my understanding is that, when compressed, the stock length shocks are shorter than the 132L/17004. So, without bumpstops it's possible to bottom out on the shock - it may compress the shock to maximum.

I am no suspension expert, nor do I pretend to be. I'm a poor almost-CPA just trying to make it in a harsh world.

 

[tommudd]

Oh yeah as far as how many miles I have put on a lifted any thing
nope I get bored to fast
let's see in the past 12 years
2 lifted YJ's ,1 of which is still some what in use at 130k
1 lifted Ranger ,first IFS ranger in the state
1 TJ ,still the best yet and it will never see 100k because it sees less than
5k a year as a TRAIL rig not a DD
and a lifted KJ
all OME and no spring stacking or other issues after 50k

so yeah I probably don't know much about suspension
I mean 2 with leaves
1 with torsion bars and leaves
1 with 5 link coil that will be converted to 4 link soon enough
and 1 with Coil over or strut and 3 link
what would I know?

Past 12 years...newbieKick.gif