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HoosierJeeper

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Was changing the rear diff fluid and this came out...
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What is it? The KJ has been driving just fine and acting normally. Is this an issue?

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It's hard to tell from the picture, but is that metal or just some RTV? If it's not metal, I wouldn't worry about it.
 

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It's metal...I checked it with a magnet. I was hoping it was RTV at first...also fwiw, the fluid was pretty clean, no metal shavings or anything in it.
 

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Is it possible to turn the wheels to turn the gears in the diff for inspection?
Sorry I haven't performed this operation yet.
 

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I could jack it up if need be I suppose...it doesn't look like it came off the ring gear though.
 

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HJ is your rear diff an open or Trac-Lok?
It is hard to see & feel from the photo. I would take the piece into a drive line shop and let them look at it.
Does it have a sharp edge on it?
It may or not be of the gears has lost it edge LOL.(not funny)
If u still have the cover off, with both wheels off ground on stands, rotate the wheels & inspect for a sheared off part of the gears....
 

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If that were from a pinion seal, it would have been on the outside end of the bearing. That wouldn't make it's way past the bearing and inside the housing. Possibly from a broken off lip of a wheel bearing seal (the metal part that presses into the tube), if those were ever changed before. It has that look to it.
 

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Wheel bearing seals haven't been changed to my knowledge. How serious is that? I just don't know if this happened recently or if it's been like that awhile.

And yes it has a mildly sharp edge, not quite like a gear though.
 

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If that piece ran through the gears, or into a bearing, it would be all chewed up. If it came from an axle seal, then it would have slid down into the center section and most likely stayed there.
 

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It looks kinda similar in radius to the pinion gear (the gear coming off the driveshaft all the way the front of the diff). But it probably would be chewed up if that were the case. If it is a wheel bearing seal, is that something that needs to be fixed right away/create more problems?
 

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I would certainly want to replace the bearings?
If the side walls are breaking apart, next thing you know you'll get balls every where.

How tight is the space behind the gears?
Can you get a good view?
 
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I don't think it's off the bearing but rather the seal. I googled a pic and it looks like it could be part of one of these:
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It fits into the seal grove of the wheel bearing...and I googled symptoms of a shredded pinion gear and I have none of them. Plus it doesn't look like it came from the pinion gear after looking at it again.
If it is that wheel bearing seal, how important/how soon does it need to be fixed? It could have been there for 3 years or just a day lol. I'm not sure.

Thanks for the help so far everyone!
 

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Let's try to put your mind a little more at ease. That piece of steel looks like a chunk of sheet metal. Does it bend like sheet metal? Most of the differential innards are hardened steel and heftier than that, so if it came from a bearing, gear, etc., it would snap in half if you try to bend it. Generally, the metal part of a seal doesn't just break off on it's own. Being pressed into the housing, it doesn't move around. This is why I'm figuring someone may have worked on the rear axle sometime in the past, and that piece is a broken off remnant of an old part (seal is likely). Me, I would leave the thing alone and keep an eye and ear on it.
 
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Thanks lol I appreciate it. I'll leave it and just pay attention.
 

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Put it back together and it seems just fine. Something to pay attention to though.
 
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