HOW TO: How to install Mopar Foglights

[djtimyd]

If you're using the Instructions For Illiterates they give, be careful where you put the relay. I got faked out when I did mine.

I love the IKEA instructions!!! :angry94:

I was wondering about that - I'm guessing its not the slot they show, rather the slot next to it. I looked in my KJ and there is already a relay in that spot, but next to it on the right there is a blank spot and that is where I thought it should go. Am I correct?

 

[profdlp]

You called it. I already had the fuse and when I saw the "instructions" (I use the term loosely) I assumed I already had the relay too.

http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/f196/fog-lights-2007-liberty-sport-54403/#post611482

 

[djtimyd]

Got a couple relays from the salvage yard...

Fog lights turn on with parking lights

When I turn the headlights on, the passenger side fog light and headlight fail to illuminate. Turn the fog lights off and leave the switch in the headlight on position, and the passenger side headlight illuminates.

Is this a relay issue?

The headlights operate normally with the fog lights off... So I don't think that its the switch in the column, but maybe I'm wrong? This one is weird...

 

[djtimyd]

I have now tried multiple relays - and all do the same thing. The only thing I can think of is the switch at this point, but that is super odd. Has anyone else had this happen to them?

The u-pull-it yard has a 30 day warranty on switches and whatnot. They, however, did not have another liberty with fog lights...

 

[profdlp]

The only things I could think of are that either the wiring under the hood where you tap into the harness is somehow different, or you may need to have the thing programmed. (My experience with the programming was ambiguous as I had it done before the relay was present, meaning I don't know if it was necessary.)

 

[djtimyd]

The only things I could think of are that either the wiring under the hood where you tap into the harness is somehow different, or you may need to have the thing programmed. (My experience with the programming was ambiguous as I had it done before the relay was present, meaning I don't know if it was necessary.)

Yeah - I read about your experience. I don't think that is the issue, since it works with the parking lights on. Its just super weird that the headlights work normally, but the passenger side fog and headlight goes out when the fog light switch is on. And - the lights worked normally prior to installing the turn-signal stock with the fog light option.

However, I may end up having to take it in for them to diagnose it and I could mention it at that time.

 

[djtimyd]

OK - so new development...

The passenger side headlight is dim. It still goes off when I turn the headlights on while the fog lights are on. When I turned on the brights, the fog lights went out, but the passenger side bright headlight came on - but dim.

I changed the stalk back to the non-foglight one, and the passenger side remains dim.

I am guessing that I got a bad wiring harness - a short in it somewhere. I will take that out after the weekend (out of town), and put the original back in. Assuming that fixes it, then I have to trace down the problem in the wiring harness.

This *****. I should have checked it at night because I couldn't tell it was dim during the day. Another odd thing is that when you pull the bright switch and hold, the fog lights come on really dim - even with the original non-foglight stalk. Now that is super weird.

 

[profdlp]

I think your suspicions about a short somewhere sound likely.

 

[djtimyd]

Confirmed that it was the wiring harness... well, more to the point, the connector. I wiggled the connections and the one that was giving me fits and starts was the headlight/fog-light harness connection to the engine bay harness. I cleaned the contacts, then bent the pins slightly inward so that it was guaranteed to make a good connection. I then smeared some dielectric grease on one side of the plug and snapped it together. All is well in the universe. My wife and I took the time tonight to aim the fogs as well... it ***** that you cant aim side to side as the passenger fog light skews more towards the center.

Thanks again... especially profdlp for the link to his trials and tribulations.

 

[profdlp]

Beats having to yank everything out and start over. Glad you got it! :favorites13:

 

[Akley88]

hate to revive an old thread but since mopar discontinued the fog light kit for an 05 can i use a kit for an 02-04 for everything minus the housings obviously.

 

[atikovi]

I bought all the parts to install factory fog lights from a junkyard. 2 lights, harness to make it a plug & play install, multifunction switch and relay. $40 total. The lenses need restoration but no big deal. This is for 2005-07 Liberty with the small lights in the grill. I had picked up a nice chrome grille earlier off a truck with fogs, so I couldn't have just some empty holes in the grille. Already installed the switch and relay, and the fog light indicator in the cluster comes on when I activate the fog light switch.

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i just got these 05 liberty renegade fog lights that are supposed to mount to the top of my bumper. Does anyone know how im supposed to attach them? Should there be more mounting hardware? Do they just screw directly into the plastic? Do I have to cut grooves in the bumper with a dremmel?

 

[atikovi]

Aren't those for Renegade models? Just a guess that there are mounting holes with welded nuts under the bumper cover that they would bolt to, but that may be only on Renegades.

 

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Aren't those for Renegade models? Just a guess that there are mounting holes with welded nuts under the bumper cover that they would bolt to, but that may be only on Renegades.

Mine is a renegade but just never had fog lights.

 

[profdlp]

Read through this:

HOW TO: Front Bumper Mounted Driving Lights

I tried searching and finding a how to for this, but didn't have much luck. I found a few different threads with various tips and suggestions from people who have done this before. I was able to do this myself and decided to do a write up so that there would be a complete how to. This is for...

www.jeepkj.com

The actually mounting instructions are toward the end.

 

[atikovi]

Mine is a renegade but just never had fog lights.

The front bumper in your picture doesn't look like a Renegade like this does,

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The front bumper in your picture doesn't look like a Renegade like this does,

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Mine was just optioned without the foglights and got the color matched bumper but mine is still a renegade

 

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Read through this:

HOW TO: Front Bumper Mounted Driving Lights

I tried searching and finding a how to for this, but didn't have much luck. I found a few different threads with various tips and suggestions from people who have done this before. I was able to do this myself and decided to do a write up so that there would be a complete how to. This is for...

www.jeepkj.com

The actually mounting instructions are toward the end.

So I pulled my grille off and it turns out the mounting brackets are there under my bumper, looks like I'll just have to cut some holes in the top of my bumper and just screw in the lights

 

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I got my fog lights in, got my multifunction blinker switch in, fog light fuse is in, fog lights are plugged in. My last hiccup is the relay. And Google is entirely useless. People keep saying that the fog light relay is "in the wiring harness" can someone tell me where on the wiring harness the relay should be? And with the relay, from factory, is it just spliced into the bare wires? Or should there be a relay socket somewhere on the wiring harness? And I've also heard people saying something about a relay panel on the back side of the interior fuse panel underneath the steering wheel, but that is for the Canadian cars only? I just want to be able to finish this project without pulling my hair out due to getting more and more useless search results despite my more and more detailed search inputs.