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I tried several products on that black strip on top of the rear bumper. Most lasted for only a few weeks. I considered trying truck bed coating on it but ran across a product called Forever Black bumper & trim. I applied it to the strip and rear hatch door handle several months ago. I failed to...

You do just cut and copy this, right? :jester:

Sorry to be so late.:icon_redface: Family emergency. Liberty stayed at Tulane medical In New Orleans than here at home .... but I got pics. Spider Trax with lift has already got attention.:happy107:

Not yet .... I haven't stopped driving it long enough. :smokin: We should have some soon.

Thanks Tom. I finally got around to putting the OME parts on. WOW! Great setup.

Yeah, that surprised me too. How much higher do the 948s and 927s ride over stock? Also I see there is a "front strut trim packer" available. Any experience with them? This is looking more and more like something I LIKE to do.

Outside corner of flare to wheel center: Left front = 18.5 Right front = 18 Left rear = 18 3/8 Right rear = 18 What did u say those OME spring #s were?:disgust::icon_redface:

uhoh, I gotta look at that later today as well.

Looks like 18.5 but it's kinda dark. I'll get better measurements tomorrow. I'd like to go a little higher while making any changes.

Just to make it perfectly clear I'm not nor did I ever intend to argue with anyone. Ms. Jayme, they got the knowledge and I wanted it. I really don't have any preconceived specs. The written word just don't convey the the actual feelings and intentions of the writer. Tom, I know you are right...

Thank you much. BTW, your Jeep looks like it has a loooong way 2 go 2 b considered worn out. :smokin: Still lookin good like in the avatar?

ohhhh ... u really think that bad of me?????? :killit: :disgust: :happy175:

As I never keep a car past 80k miles, even used ones, sagging springs is not a part of the vehicle I concerned myself with. Add to that I don't know of a single person, mechanics included, that changed out springs because they sagged. All of our suspension mods have been purpose driven. I'm not...

You could have stopped at the first sentence. I'm not challenging facts. I simply want to know what "worn out" is. I'm not going to change springs just because someone says mine are "worn out". I'll show a small portion of my epeter just to make a point. My son and I just finished a 1006 h.p...

If you are referring to me probably not. You are proving my point. Tom says "worn out" without an actual reference to what that actually is. We, the ignorant, need to know what that refers to when deciding how to proceed. Just because a vehicle has XXX miles on it doesn't mean it has "worn out"...

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, It may just be the added weight of modded vehicles. It may just be the extra crap you guys carry around pushing it toward the ground. :shrug:

I understand metal fatigue. They will sag over time accelerated by weight. No prob. Back on page 6 you said "So you take a spring with say 50,000 miles on it, its already sagged 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch most generally." But is that "worn out"? Now look at these entries: It clearly says "worn...

Sure looks like an insult to me. I'll stop here before it gets any uglier. I gotta say I fully intend to bank the money and continue to ride on my worn out springs. You can change 500 springs if that is your thing.

You sound like you work in that profession. :happy107: The key point to your entry is 80k miles plus the vehicles you refer to. I rarely keep a vehicle for 80k miles. I have owned several vehicles that I've done suspension work on. I kept height measurement info on several and rechecked many...

I'm unsure what you mean by worn out springs.I've never had a spring to sag or ride noticeable different from the way came from the factory. This includes the rear springs on trucks I've used to haul and pull some heavy trailers.