Swing gate loading-discussion

[Johnny O]

So, we all are versed that the max load for the swing gate is in the vicinity of 50lbs +/- . (Been discussed here a bit)

I’m wondering if this weight from the owners manual is a function of the hinges in the swing gate, the sheet metal construction, or both. I assume the latter given how the spare is attached dead center in a focused area.(the least supportive area of the skin)

Got to thinking perhaps if the actual mount has changed to something that bolts on closer to the corners one could add, say two rotopax style fuel jerries. 40 liters/10 gallons of fuel is roughly 60lbs. 40 liters/10gal of water is roughly 88lbs.

I’m no spring chicken anymore and lugging stuff on and off of the roof rack is quite an effort for me. With a gimpy shoulder and such. Working on optimization of load out for what is looking to be a very very busy excursion season.

Curious what yinze think.

 

[LibertyTC]

IDK, but as long as the tailgate is closed, you may be quite surprised how much weight it can actually support !

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[tommudd]

I know on the 04 I had a 265-75-16 Duratrac on a Moab for over 25000 miles ( and then got the Rock Lizard rear bumper with dual swingouts ) and the gate got quite loud within the first 1-1500 miles and kept getting worse, until the spare went on the bumper

Plus it had 100,000 miles on it before I went to 265-75-16s

 

[LibertyTC]

How about a cargo Carrier?

 

[Johnny O]

How about a cargo Carrier?

This is one option I’ve been looking at. I won’t always need my trailer.
(It’s almost finished. Named it ERNIE…”excursion ready now I’m equipped” See what I did there?)

 

[Johnny O]

I know on the 04 I had a 265-75-16 Duratrac on a Moab for over 25000 miles ( and then got the Rock Lizard rear bumper with dual swingouts ) and the gate got quite loud within the first 1-1500 miles and kept getting worse, until the spare went on the bumper

Plus it had 100,000 miles on it before I went to 265-75-16s

Great info. This leads me to deduce that it is a combination of both functions. While the swing gate can handle larger loads. it puts wear and tear on both the hinges and the latch. Well, at least that's how it works out in my head.

 

[Johnny O]

IDK, but as long as the tailgate is closed, you may be quite surprised how much weight it can actually support !

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That is an interesting choice of gear. LOL

 

[Michael Noland]

I have a tire step that I put over my spare. I put 5 gallons of diesel (35 lbs) on top of the step. I put a pad over the rough step so I don't tear up the gas can. I've used a cargo carrier for my motorcyle, but it sure limits your ability to cross gullys.

 

[Chuck]

So, we all are versed that the max load for the swing gate is in the vicinity of 50lbs +/- . (Been discussed here a bit)

I’m wondering if this weight from the owners manual is a function of the hinges in the swing gate, the sheet metal construction, or both. I assume the latter given how the spare is attached dead center in a focused area.(the least supportive area of the skin)

Got to thinking perhaps if the actual mount has changed to something that bolts on closer to the corners one could add, say two rotopax style fuel jerries. 40 liters/10 gallons of fuel is roughly 60lbs. 40 liters/10gal of water is roughly 88lbs.

I’m no spring chicken anymore and lugging stuff on and off of the roof rack is quite an effort for me. With a gimpy shoulder and such. Working on optimization of load out for what is looking to be a very very busy excursion season.

Curious what yinze think.

....instead of jerries, how about a long range fuel tank. Better weight distribution, lower centre of gravity etc. Painless motoring....
Standard tank is about 78L (±19.5 gal.) right? Here in Australia you can get e.g. 115L (=30 gal.) tanks for some KJ models; https://longrangeautomotive.com.au/Jeep-Cherokee-KJ-115L-Replacement~267
I'm sure the US market is a tad bigger, so you should be able to find something that suits.

 

[tommudd]

....instead of jerries, how about a long range fuel tank. Better weight distribution, lower centre of gravity etc. Painless motoring....
Standard tank is about 78L (±19.5 gal.) right? Here in Australia you can get e.g. 115L (=30 gal.) tanks for some KJ models; https://longrangeautomotive.com.au/Jeep-Cherokee-KJ-115L-Replacement~267
I'm sure the US market is a tad bigger, so you should be able to find something that suits.

Not likely, you chaps down under have much better products and selections available

 

[tommudd]

I have a tire step that I put over my spare. I put 5 gallons of diesel (35 lbs) on top of the step. I put a pad over the rough step so I don't tear up the gas can. I've used a cargo carrier for my motorcyle, but it sure limits your ability to cross gullys.

Putting a lot or weight back there for sure
would never do it

 

[Johnny O]

....instead of jerries, how about a long range fuel tank. Better weight distribution, lower centre of gravity etc. Painless motoring....
Standard tank is about 78L (±19.5 gal.) right? Here in Australia you can get e.g. 115L (=30 gal.) tanks for some KJ models; https://longrangeautomotive.com.au/Jeep-Cherokee-KJ-115L-Replacement~267
I'm sure the US market is a tad bigger, so you should be able to find something that suits.

Oh wow. This is exactly what I need. Shipping between the US and down under is a nightmare right now, but this is brilliant!