Fuel tank vent / rollover valve

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kb9mfd

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I think I have finally found the actual issue after over a year of trying to figure this out. I keep getting various EVAP error codes, and I have replaced the LDP and the solenoid. I have also done smoke leak testing and found no leaks. Today I drove about 20 min away and then put gas in, no issues, no codes, drove fine. After filling the tank because the fuel light came on (I do not top off; I stop it on the first click), I got in, the jeep started, and then almost immediately died. I could not keep it running. It would start and then pulse rev if I pushed the accelerator down; if I let up, it would just die. While questioning my life choices, blocking the road at a busy gas station, I googled the symptoms of a Jeep dying right after filling the tank, and the first thing it mentioned was an EVAP issue. I popped the hood, unplugged the solenoid connections, and plugged the vac hose. I immediately noticed there was actual fuel dripping from the purge tube. I started the Jeep, and behold, it ran better than it ever has.
After further Google searches, it appears the fuel tank vent/rollover valve is stuck open. That would explain why there was fuel in the EVAP line and why it was pulsing (the solenoid turning on and off) when running, basically having raw fuel getting sucked up when the solenoid was open. Also explained why it was smelling, it was running rich. That would also explain the random error codes, and it's stalling or running rough randomly.
I would guess my canister is bad now. I assume I will need to replace it and possibly the LDP as well, even though it's almost new. Here is my main question: has anyone dealt with the vent/rollover valve in/on the tank? From what I gather, it says it's not replaceable, and I can't find a replacement on rockauto or anywhere else yet. So, is there a hack for fixing that, or do I really have to locate and replace the entire tank? Is there an off-market replacement (hack) by any chance, or has anyone had this same issue and been able to fix it by dropping the tank and removing the pump to access and clean it? Thanks
 

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Try Amazon. Buy lots cause they will probably only last a year before sticking.
I would, except that the Liberty (JK, 2004) is not listed anywhere as compatible. Google search states it's not replaceable, but I would like to confirm that. From the pictures, the vent is actually part of the fuel pump assembly?? I have the FSM, and it's rather confusing. I cannot seem to figure out what those are and where to get them. Oddly, this page does not indicate what part is what number (there are no circled numbers like on the other pages), and the part numbers don't show up in Google. Well, the flange shows up, but only the Mopar description, and I cannot find anywhere to buy it. The Flow Valve I cannot find anywhere. Google comes back with a fuel filter. (952128698AA - off the page, item "8", I think, says it comes with 05103115AC, but it's the same part number listed as the item above it. I think this page is messed up in the FSM I have)
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James Akemon

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By inserting a GM fuel flapper valve (GM Part #10363574 or similar) into the fill tube, you create a one-way baffle. This valve allows fuel to easily flow down into the tank but stops the air and liquid from splashing back up into the pump nozzle, allowing you to fill your tank normally.Steps to Install ItAccess the Filler Tube: Safely raise and support the rear of the Jeep and remove the driver-side rear tire to access the inner fender well.Remove the Hose: Loosen the hose clamps securing the rubber filler hose (the tube connecting the gas cap to the gas tank) and remove the hose.Insert the Valve: Push the GM flapper valve into the tube, making sure the flap pivots downward.Reassemble: Slide the rubber fill hose back onto the metal filler neck and tighten the hose clamps securely.
 

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Here's a comprehensive writeup with pictures as well
 

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