Jeep vs. deer...+1 for the deer

[grogiefrog]

I'm not sure if it cracked the engine block, but it's getting all new pullies and everything else forward. The airbag system seems pretty intellgent by what was posted above. Maybe it sensed the extra girth behind the steering wheel. O I'm sure they checked the tansmission though. Is there a trans. cooler or an oil cooler in front? It was due for all the fluids to be changed anyway.

It still amazes me that cars are as reliable as they are, with the thousands of parts. I love watching this video that Bennett has a link to on building a KJ.

http://www.libertycountry.com/videos/Reviews/JeepLibertyMaking.wmv

 

[styng88]

Here's a cut and paste from the estimate that the insurance company did.


Line Entry Labor Line Item Part Type/ Dollar Labor
Item Number Type Operation Description Part Number Amount Units
____ ______ _____ _________________ ___________________________________________ ____________________ __________ _______
FRONT BUMPER
1 BDY OVERHAUL FRT BUMPER ASSY 0.9 #
2 201142 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE FRT BUMPER COVER 5GJ63HS5AC 495.00 INC #
3 200016 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE FRT BUMPER IMPACT CUSHION **Non-OEM 54.00 INC
GRILLE
4 200023 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE GRILLE 55156608AA 180.00 INC
5 REF REFINISH GRILLE C 2.0
6 200024 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE GRILLE SCREW New 3.00*
7 201312 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE GRILLE INSERT **Non-OEM 41.00
8 201138 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE GRILLE OPENING REINFORCEMENT **Non-OEM 141.00 0.8 #
FRONT LAMPS
9 200028 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE R H/LAMP ASSEMBLY **Non-OEM 185.00 INC #
10 BDY CHECK/ADJUST HEADLAMPS 0.4
11 200029 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L H/LAMP ASSEMBLY **Non-OEM 185.00 INC #
12 200032 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL R FRT PARK/SIGNAL/MARKER LAMP INC #
13 200035 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L PARK/SIGNAL/MKR LAMP ASSEMBLY **Non-OEM 25.00 INC #
HOOD
14 200058 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE HOOD PANEL 55177200AB 350.00 1.0
15 REF REFINISH HOOD OUTSIDE C 2.6

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16 REF REFINISH HOOD UNDERSIDE C 1.3
17 200059 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE HOOD EMBLEM (ADHESIVE) 55156554AB 20.75 0.1
18 200072 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE HOOD LATCH 55176926AB 29.70 0.3 #
COOLING
19 200096 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING RADIATOR 52080118AB 219.00 1.8
20 200101 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE R COOLING RADIATOR SEAL 52079766AC 17.50
21 200102 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L COOLING RADIATOR SEAL 52079767AD 18.00
22 200099 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE UPR COOLING RADIATOR HOSE 52079712AB 11.95 0.1 #
23 200100 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE LWR COOLING RADIATOR HOSE 52079703AB 9.90 0.1 #
24 200103 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING RADIATOR SHROUD 52080127AA 46.85 INC #
25 203266 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING COOLANT LEVEL MODULE **Non-OEM 110.00 0.7
26 203265 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING FAN BLADE 52079528AB 372.00 0.2 #
27 200107 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE UPR COOLING RADIATOR SEAL 52079760AA 6.00
28 200108 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE LWR COOLING RADIATOR SEAL 52079768AA 15.00
29 200109 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING WATER PUMP -M 53021187AA 83.35 2.0
30 200110 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING WATER PUMP GASKET -M **Non-OEM 5.76
31 200111 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE COOLING DRIVE BELT **Non-OEM 35.99 0.7
TRANS OIL COOLER
32 203274 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE TRANS OIL COOLER -M 52079697AB 99.50 0.6 #
A/C /HEATER/VENTILATION
33 200119 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE A/C REFRIGERANT RECOVERY -M 0.3
34 200120 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE AIR COND CONDENSER -M **Non-OEM 196.00 0.7 #
35 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE EVACUATE & RECHARGE A/C -M 1.4
36 200125 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE AIR COND HOSE -M 5072160AA 21.10 1.0
37 200127 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE AIR COND DISCHARGE HOSE -M 55037801AB 130.00 0.9
38 201319 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE AIR COND SUCTION HOSE -M 5072199AA 85.50 0.8
FRONT FENDER
39 200155 BDY REPAIR R FENDER PANEL Existing 2.0 *#
40 PARTIAL REFINISH W/ FULL CLEAR
41 REF REFINISH/REPAIR R FENDER PANEL C 1.0 *
42 200156 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FENDER PANEL 55177101AD 128.00 2.9 #
43 REF REFINISH L FENDER OUTSIDE C 1.6
44 REF REFINISH L FENDER EDGE C 0.5
45 200158 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FENDER BRACKET 55360237AB 5.60
46 201772 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FENDER LINER **Non-OEM 17.00 0.3 #
47 201324 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL R WHEEL OPENING FLARE INC
48 202485 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL FENDER ANTENNA BODY AND CABLE Existing 0.8 *
49 201188 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FENDER WHEELOPENING FLARE 5GG97HS5AE 80.75 INC
FRONT INNER STRUCTURE
50 REF REFINISH RADIATOR SUPPORT COMPLETE 1.2
51 200175 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE UPR FRONT BODY TIE BAR 55176763AC 36.85 0.6
52 201141 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE LWR FRONT BODY TIE BAR -S 55176756AD 71.45 1.5
53 200176 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE FRONT BODY HOOD LATCH SUPPORT 55360229AA 21.75 0.2 #
54 200177 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE FRONT BODY LOWER CROSSMEMBER -S 55360190AD 81.10 3.0
55 201336 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE R FRONT BODY INSULATOR 55360410AA 12.70
56 201337 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRONT BODY INSULATOR 55360410AA 12.70
57 200187 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRONT BODY FENDER REINF -S 55177415AD 126.00 4.0 #
58 REF REFINISH L FENDER REINF 0.5
59 200184 BDY REPAIR R FRONT BODY INNER FENDER PANEL -S Existing 1.5 *#
60 REF REFINISH R INNER PANEL 0.5
61 200185 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRONT BODY INNER FENDER PANEL -S 55177017AD 145.00 INC #
62 REF REFINISH L INNER PANEL 0.5
63 201774 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRONT BODY APRON -S 55176859AH 143.00 4.5
64 REF REFINISH L FRONT APRON PANEL 0.5
STEERING PUMP
65 200336 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE STEERING POWER PUMP -M 52088710AC 130.00 2.4

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[styng88]

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66 200338 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE STEERING PUMP PULLEY -M 53010258AC 22.35 0.3 #
67 200339 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE STEERING PRESSURE HOSE -M 52088714AE 131.00 0.8
68 200340 MCH REMOVE/REPLACE STEERING COOLER -M 52128561AB 195.00 0.9
AIR CLEANER
69 200420 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE AIR CLEANER ASSEMBLY 53013108AA 130.00 0.4
ELECTRICAL
70 203555 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE ENGINE IDLER PULLEY 53031045 38.50
71 203556 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE BELT TENSIONER **Non-OEM 17.39
72 200450 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE BATTERY COVER 56041503AA 5.50 INC #
73 200452 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE SUPPORT 55360084AD 27.10 0.5 #
74 200455 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE HORN ASSEMBLY 56010313AB 27.70 0.3
WINDSHIELD
75 200478 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE R W/SHIELD WIPER BLADE ARM 5066970AA 30.60 INC #
76 200479 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L W/SHIELD WIPER BLADE ARM 5066968AA 33.20 INC #
COWL & DASH
77 200491 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE COWL/DASH COWL TOP COVER 55155851AF 99.10 0.8 #
FRONT DOOR
78 200657 REF REFINISH L FRT DOOR OUTSIDE C 1.9
79 201843 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL L FRT OTR BELT MOULDING 0.2
80 200671 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL L FRT DOOR MIRROR 0.3 #
81 200675 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRT DOOR ADHESIVE MOULDING 5GF35HS5AC 37.85 0.2
82 200677 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRT DOOR ADHESIVE NAMEPLATE 55156604AB 27.20 0.2
83 200681 BDY REMOVE/REPLACE L FRT DOOR ADHESIVE NAMEPLATE 55156273AC 19.60 0.2
84 200685 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL L FRT DOOR TRIM PANEL INC
85 200699 BDY REMOVE/INSTALL L FRT OTR DOOR HANDLE 0.5 #
ADDITIONAL COSTS & MATERIALS
86 936001 ADD'L COST TOWING 125.00*
87 936012 ADD'L COST HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL 3.00*
ADDITIONAL OPERATIONS
88 REF ADD'L OPR CLEAR COAT 3.1
SPECIAL ENTRY
89 ADD'L COST PAINT/MATERIALS 344.00*
90 900500 BDY* ADD'L LABOR OP CORROSION PROTECTION Sublet 10.00* 0.3 *
91 900500 BDY* ADD'L LABOR OP CAR COVER Sublet 5.00* 0.2 *
92 900500 BDS* ALIGN SEAM SEALER Sublet 10.00* 0.0 *
93 900500 FRM* ALIGN SETUP & MEASURE Existing 2.0 *
94 900500 FRM* ALIGN STRUCTURAL / REPAIR / PULL Existing 6.5 *
95 900500 BDY* REMOVE/REPLACE BATTERY Sublet 72.99* 0.0 *
96 BETTERMENT/DEPRECIATION BASED ON
97 CURRENT AGE VERSUS EXPECTED LIFE
98 CURRENT AGE IN MONTHS/EXPECTED LIFE: 30/60
99 BETTERMENT-P BATTERY %50.00 36.50
100 900500 BDY* ADD'L LABOR OP CLEAN FLUIDS OFF OF IV Existing 0.5 *
101 900500 MCH* REMOVE/REPLACE POWER STEERING FLUID - 2 PINT Sublet 12.00* 0.0 *
102 900500 BDY* REMOVE/REPLACE COOLANT Sublet 20.00* 0.0 *
103 900500 BDY* REMOVE/REPLACE R-134 FREON **Qual Repl Part 15.00* 0.0 *

 

[2003KJ]

holy cow! I doubt the block is cracked, all the pulleys probably took most of the hit. I'd have to wonder though, unless its in that massive list of parts and i didn't catch it, if your crankshaft pulley is bent to hell, what shape is the crankshaft itself in?

 

[Trodo]

Holy C**P!! Sure it wasn't a brick wall! Damn, just mark it up totalled. Get yourself a new one.

 

[styng88]

Holy C**P!! Sure it wasn't a brick wall! Damn, just mark it up totalled. Get yourself a new one.

I argued with the insurance company over this, but they said that it's repairable. The guy at the body shop was saying he never saw deer blood from an incident before. Plus, the vehicle is worth 15k (roughly) and has over 8k in damage. I don't get it.

 

[Trodo]

It's a scary thought, but you might just get little mechanical issues popping up for awhile after you get it back. One other good thing out of this, other than your wife and bay are okay, at least the insurance company is kicking out the money you paid to them all these years instead of just keeping it.

 

[styng88]

The funny thing is, I switched only a year ago. Unless they jack up my premium after this, I'll continue to stick with them.

 

[grogiefrog]

The funny thing is, I switched only a year ago. Unless they jack up my premium after this, I'll continue to stick with them.

They shouldn't raise your rates. My State Farm said it's an act of God and currently they do not raise rates as a result.

You should be fine with the repair job. Your insurance company should guarantee that it's fixed to original standards. Just look it over real close and even have a mechanic take a look at it. I have heard this from my father-in-law who owns an auto-body shop.

 

[thx1138]

Don't ya love insurance companies? My buddy Tom has an '03 Rennie and was in an accident 3 weeks ago which wasn't his fault. The other guy's insurance adjuster finally came yesterday and was going over the jeep and wasn't coming up with the same numbers on damage as my buddy's dealership quote...not even close. So Tom sez, "What's the deal?". The adjuster explains that they canvas salvage yards across the country to find the parts on a wreck where its not damaged and they'll pay for those parts to use in the repairs! Needless to say, Tom was like, "I don't think so pal" To which the adjuster replied,"Well..thats how its done anymore". Again Tom told him that his jeep had low miles, it WAS in A1 shape and he wanted NEW mopar parts on it. Well, the guy hemhawed around for a bit and finally came up with a higher estimate (only because he couldn't find a wrecked jeep with an undamaged front end..yeah..right!) and the check's in the mail. If some jerk adjuster tried that on me I'd superglue antlers to his head throw 'im in a box and ship him to the National Forest in southern indiana during a culling hunt and let grogie take potshots at him. Giggety...giggety..giggety! 8-[ :-$

 

[luvmy04eep.]

Wow... I just hit a deer hard today too

I looked at the photos of your jeep and it is amazing that your wife and baby were just fine. That is great! I think this just shows the satefy of the jeeps we all own.

I just hit a deer today going about 55mph and I believe the front end damage will be minimal. Luckily the airbag did not go off, as well as with your wife. If so the accident is usually much much worse for the passenger.

I am just really bummed because my 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee is gimp now until I get it fixed. I can't bear a day with out my Jeep (blarg)... gonna suck using a rental for a bit. The rental better be a Jeep.

 

[JeepJeepster]

Holy old thread.

Im confused why anyone thinks air bags should ever pop when you hit something like a deer. It would never cross my mind that an air bag would be needed to destroy a deer. Its all about inertia..

Glad you and your WJ are ok.