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Lifting - validation and question on clevis lift


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Originally Posted by rsscoggins I checked out the conduit nuts at Home Depot - they were beveled and not flat. ...

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Old 01-05-2018, 08:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rsscoggins View Post
I checked out the conduit nuts at Home Depot - they were beveled and not flat. Is that normal?
You don't need the conduit nuts or anything else really. We use them for measurement only, they hold no weight, do nothing really. Its just an easy way to make sure both sides are the same
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Originally Posted by rsscoggins View Post
Tom - so with the components I described, woukd you recommend 0.25 or 0.387 clevis shims.

Thanks for the shock recommendation!

If I go with 15 wheels, I assume same 4 backspacing would apply.

Any specific advantage of the 16 or 15?
Yes if you go with 15s , would be same width and backspacing
Since I do not like Soft 8s etc that you have to use to run 15s I only like 16s
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I'm running 2 or 3 conduit nuts... I forget. The 1st one kind of disappears into the shock plate, but after that they add height.

If all you're after is some cheap 15" steel winter wheels, there's dodge truck/van and car steels that work. Mine were from an 84 ramcharger 2wd. Probably has to that age or older.
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Originally Posted by tommudd View Post
Yes if you go with 15s , would be same width and backspacing
Since I do not like Soft 8s etc that you have to use to run 15s I only like 16s
Tom, man thanks for all of your help on behalf of me and my son! It is greatly appreciated.

However, I am not following that last part - are you saying that you don't like the Soft 8s at all or they look weird in 15 or that you don't like the manufacture of the ones who make them in 15"? Not that it matters if you don't like them but if they look weird in 15" then that could be an issue or if the 15" wheels from certain manufacturers have issues, then that is another story! The wheels I had in the original link were the D-Window wheels and not the soft 8, I believe.


So with the lift I have proposed, I understand that we can run a 245/75R16 without issue (is that correct). That is about a 30.5 tire that is about 9.6 wide.

So with 15" wheels, would you run a 31x10.50 or a 30x9.50. I am thinking a 30x9.50 is safer for clearance.

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Originally Posted by rsscoggins View Post
Tom, man thanks for all of your help on behalf of me and my son! It is greatly appreciated.

However, I am not following that last part - are you saying that you don't like the Soft 8s at all or they look weird in 15 or that you don't like the manufacture of the ones who make them in 15"? Not that it matters if you don't like them but if they look weird in 15" then that could be an issue or if the 15" wheels from certain manufacturers have issues, then that is another story! The wheels I had in the original link were the D-Window wheels and not the soft 8, I believe.


So with the lift I have proposed, I understand that we can run a 245/75R16 without issue (is that correct). That is about a 30.5 tire that is about 9.6 wide.

So with 15" wheels, would you run a 31x10.50 or a 30x9.50. I am thinking a 30x9.50 is safer for clearance.
I just don't like Soft 8s / D Windows etc personally
Kind of over done in my book
Not that they look weird or anything
Yes with 2.5 inches of lift you can run 245-75-16s or 3 inches even better
31-10.50-15 is same height as the 245-75-16s and 265-70-16s
30x9.50 would look great as well, plus no real power or mileage loss
of course not everyone runs as many hills as I do so the reason for me to recommend regearing , ( plus I like a little stop light action every now and again LOL)
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I am in the process of ordering stuff for the lift. The Bilsteins for the Dakota are out of stock everywhere.

If I run the shocks from the wrangle (Bilstein 24-185660) do I need the bushing kit from JBA for these shocks?
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Originally Posted by rsscoggins View Post
I am in the process of ordering stuff for the lift. The Bilsteins for the Dakota are out of stock everywhere.

If I run the shocks from the wrangle (Bilstein 24-185660) do I need the bushing kit from JBA for these shocks?
shockwarehouse had some the other day for the 99-04 Dakota club cab 4x4
just ordered a set for a customers lift
I never use the wrangler ones
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Originally Posted by tommudd View Post
shockwarehouse had some the other day for the 99-04 Dakota club cab 4x4
just ordered a set for a customers lift
I never use the wrangler ones
Thanks Tom. I will look at Shockwarehouse.

If I use these from the Dakota, I need the JBA bushings correct?
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Yes or do what I did (accidentally) and tighten them down enough to compress the mounts so they don't move. I didn't discover I did that till I went to put OME shocks on and had to slightly widen the openings.
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Originally Posted by rsscoggins View Post
Thanks Tom. I will look at Shockwarehouse.

If I use these from the Dakota, I need the JBA bushings correct?
Yes
Its for bolt size so no slop in the bushing
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