Toyo Open County AT3 - LT225/75R16

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LabRat’s Honestly Blunt Review #1

Talking tires on an off-road vehicle forum is like talking oil on an air cooled Volkswagen forum or going to a car show and talking Mopar vs. Ford vs. Chevy.

So, in the interest of science, here’s a review of Toyo Tires Light Truck all terrains on an 07 Liberty in the size on the sticker.

This review is based on a stock suspension 07 Liberty Sport gas automatic using OE powdercoat steel wheels after exactly 5000 miles. 1.5k off pavement, 1.5k freeway, and 2k in suburbia.

price: wife bought them for me just so I’d “…take a ******* vacation and go away for a while…” She ordered them online via WalMart and had them delivered to the house. Total cost: 597.63 for 5 tires, installation, and Road Hazard set of 5 OEM refurbished black powder coated steels 297$ delivered to the house…also from Walmart.com

installation/mounting/balance :
Free to me at the local WalMart. Say what you want about Wally World, but they are everywhere and that Road Hazard is covered at every single Walmart auto center. One wheel was tough for them to balance as it had a bend. They labeled it and mounted it as the spare. Emergency Use Only Max 30mph. Good enough for me.

performance: holy **** what a difference. Bert rides, steers, and stops better than it did on the cheap random off brand street radials on OEM alloys.

Noise: QUIET on pavement. The usual off road tire roar isn’t present. There is a slight hum if you rolling with the windows down, but that is to be expected with off road tires.

The real deal:
First week in suburbia running to and from work and all over Omaha on surface and freeways the improvement was noted even to my non-wrench head wife. Over 3k miles a week after installation in Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, and Nebraska and these tires outperformed my expectations.Check my other threads- Amasa Basin, Sinbad, Five Mile Pass, Grand Mesa, Gear Basin NP, Moab. Kairopowits. Bonneville. Dugway. Pony Express Trail. Burbank and Conger Mountain. I80.I70.I76. US 6/50. And lots of places that have no name.
These tires took it all.
At the ******* filthy **** hole that is 5 Mile Pass OHV area, I had multiple foreign objects stuck in the rubber. Never got a flat or any air loss.
Spare has 0 miles on it.

So enough bragging, the one con is that with brand new stock suspension, on the 07 Liberty sport the can and will rub on the stupid shark fin that sticks out of the aft side of the front wheel wells. With stock suspension, just don’t make sharp turns…

Minor con is they bloom brown with Meguiers tire protection unless you reapply it regularly.

all in all, I feel these are an excellent budget alternative for the daily driver/weekend warrior.
We can’t all justify the cost of 5 Falkens. In my opinion and experience, the Toyos are a perfect budget alternative.

these are often listed as 29 or 30 inch tires. Brand new mine measured 30.49 inches OD on the OE 16” steels.
 

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I've been looking at them for a new set on the 03 ( run 265-70-16s on it )
Seem like an OK tire, not bad prices
I love the Goodyear Duratracs ran them on the 04 in 265-75-16s but from then till now prices have increased a LOT !!
But I did get over 90,000 miles out of them
The Open Country AT IIIs say warranty to 50,000 I think
 

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I've been looking at them for a new set on the 03 ( run 265-70-16s on it )
Seem like an OK tire, not bad prices
I love the Goodyear Duratracs ran them on the 04 in 265-75-16s but from then till now prices have increased a LOT !!
But I did get over 90,000 miles out of them
The Open Country AT IIIs say warranty to 50,000 I think
Correct! 50k warranty.
 

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I also admit I ran Toyos on one of my Baja bugs and loved them, hence why I had my eyes on these from day 1.

I’ll report back and update this once winter hits. Haven’t had the chance to use them in ice, snow or slush.

Also, I’m not known for fording or mudding, but they did well dealing with washed out flash flood damaged roads, particularly at Ibex and Sinbad where much of the road was just gone from a series of monsoon storms.
 
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LabRat’s Honestly Blunt Review #1

Talking tires on an off-road vehicle forum is like talking oil on an air cooled Volkswagen forum or going to a car show and talking Mopar vs. Ford vs. Chevy.

So, in the interest of science, here’s a review of Toyo Tires Light Truck all terrains on an 07 Liberty in the size on the sticker.

This review is based on a stock suspension 07 Liberty Sport gas automatic using OE powdercoat steel wheels after exactly 5000 miles. 1.5k off pavement, 1.5k freeway, and 2k in suburbia.

price: wife bought them for me just so I’d “…take a ******* vacation and go away for a while…” She ordered them online via WalMart and had them delivered to the house. Total cost: 597.63 for 5 tires, installation, and Road Hazard set of 5 OEM refurbished black powder coated steels 297$ delivered to the house…also from Walmart.com

installation/mounting/balance :
Free to me at the local WalMart. Say what you want about Wally World, but they are everywhere and that Road Hazard is covered at every single Walmart auto center. One wheel was tough for them to balance as it had a bend. They labeled it and mounted it as the spare. Emergency Use Only Max 30mph. Good enough for me.

performance: holy **** what a difference. Bert rides, steers, and stops better than it did on the cheap random off brand street radials on OEM alloys.

Noise: QUIET on pavement. The usual off road tire roar isn’t present. There is a slight hum if you rolling with the windows down, but that is to be expected with off road tires.

The real deal:
First week in suburbia running to and from work and all over Omaha on surface and freeways the improvement was noted even to my non-wrench head wife. Over 3k miles a week after installation in Colorado, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, and Nebraska and these tires outperformed my expectations.Check my other threads- Amasa Basin, Sinbad, Five Mile Pass, Grand Mesa, Gear Basin NP, Moab. Kairopowits. Bonneville. Dugway. Pony Express Trail. Burbank and Conger Mountain. I80.I70.I76. US 6/50. And lots of places that have no name.
These tires took it all.
At the ******* filthy **** hole that is 5 Mile Pass OHV area, I had multiple foreign objects stuck in the rubber. Never got a flat or any air loss.
Spare has 0 miles on it.

So enough bragging, the one con is that with brand new stock suspension, on the 07 Liberty sport the can and will rub on the stupid shark fin that sticks out of the aft side of the front wheel wells. With stock suspension, just don’t make sharp turns…

Minor con is they bloom brown with Meguiers tire protection unless you reapply it regularly.

all in all, I feel these are an excellent budget alternative for the daily driver/weekend warrior.
We can’t all justify the cost of 5 Falkens. In my opinion and experience, the Toyos are a perfect budget alternative.

these are often listed as 29 or 30 inch tires. Brand new mine measured 30.49 inches OD on the OE 16” steels.
How are these on wet pavement, heavy rain?
 

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How are these on wet pavement, heavy rain?
Solid. They’ve been everywhere on everything on and off road. Cut their chops during monsoon season last year and never lost traction. Even at freeway speeds they aren’t noisy.
I use them as my daily drivers on both KJs as a result.
 

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Solid. They’ve been everywhere on everything on and off road. Cut their chops during monsoon season last year and never lost traction. Even at freeway speeds they aren’t noisy.
I use them as my daily drivers on both KJs as a result.
Nice! This is encouraging and they look good as well
 

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Great tires for a good price. I hate pavement hum and these are really quiet relatively spreading.
My Jeep is due for tires now and I've been researching for quite some time. I am gonna pull the trigger on a set of these and give them a go!
 

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Ran BF Goodrich ATs for years. The last two sets got approx 30,000 mi. Tried General AT Grabbers. Lot cheaper and grip great. Also told made in USA! Very happy so far. Not cutting on anyone else, just my two cents. Thanks.
 

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Amazing, spent the last couple of evenings, on an of, surfing the net for a pair of 265,70,15 winter tyres for my XJ &, largely because of limited availability in that size came down to exactly those tyres.
They're a bit more expensive here but if I order them on-line from a major chain, I can have them fitted locally for an all in price about £7.00 (say $8.25) less than the shipped price from the cheapest on-line tyre shop (which would then cost me at least £10.00 ($11:75) a pop for fitting.
Was rather disappointed they did not score so high for wet grip/braking as the Nexens I would really have liked, so this endorsement out of the blue is very encouraging.
Just can't believe the timing :)
 
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Amazing, spent the last couple of evenings, on an of, surfing the net for a pair of 265,70,15 winter tyres for my XJ &, largely because of limited availability in that size came down to exactly those tyres.
They're a bit more expensive here but if I order them on-line from a major chain, I can have them fitted locally for an all in price about £7.00 (say $8.25) less than the shipped price from the cheapest on-line tyre shop (which would then cost me at least £10.00 ($11:75) a pop for fitting.
Was rather disappointed they did not score so high for wet grip/braking as the Nexens I would really have liked, so this endorsement out of the blue is very encouraging.
Just can't believe the timing :)
I haven't had traction issues at all. I suspect the low wet traction score on pavement is from the knuckleheads trying to drive a Liberty like it is a car. Common problem that isn't the fault of the rubber.

I assure you, I have beaten the heck out of these tires in all conditions on and off road. Just about 2 years later and they are just now starting to show their age. Sure Wildpeaks they ain't, but I'm a cheapskate.
 

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Over here, all street tyres have a rating for fuel economy, wet grip & noise with A being the best in each category, these score a C for wet grip, the Nexen's are B which is really good. That's why I found your remarks, which I read carefully, with great interest, so encouraging.
Hope to order them during the week with a view to getting them fitted next Saturday & get the alignment done: nice bonus that, it's 1/2-price if you buy 2 tyres :D
 

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Over here, all street tyres have a rating for fuel economy, wet grip & noise with A being the best in each category, these score a C for wet grip, the Nexen's are B which is really good. That's why I found your remarks, which I read carefully, with great interest, so encouraging.
Hope to order them during the week with a view to getting them fitted next Saturday & get the alignment done: nice bonus that, it's 1/2-price if you buy 2 tyres :D
Wish I could get a deal like that here. Currently they are running about 150 USD each, nearly twice what I paid originally.
 
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