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Before y'all preach the bad read first.
I got 2.5 front spacers,2" rear spacers.
My springs will not be sagging I have new struts and springs, rear springs and shocks.
My question is tires. I'm looking at 245 70 16(stock steel wheels). But I want the tire to fill out the wheel well. Would a 245 75 16 be better?
Don't want to cut nothing, it's a 2wd and I'm doing it for aesthetics not off road.
Has anyone had success with 245 75. Or should I get the 70 all terrain? I've read multiple threads,and nobody really gives a definite answer. It's a dd, might hit dirt roads a few times.
 

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NO on the 245-75-16s unless you are not driving it at all ( even with stock new springs etc )
NEXT even with stock wheels and those spacers when turning it will rub in front
 

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NO on the 245-75-16s unless you are not driving it at all ( even with stock new springs etc )
NEXT even with stock wheels and those spacers when turning it will rub in front
Thanks,I ended up getting 235/75 16
Pretty sure a 30" tire will look and do ok with no rubbin appreciate the reply
 

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Well the 235/75 16 are only maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch taller then the 225/75 it has on sagging springs so I'm confident with new springs,shocks,struts there wont be a problem with rubbing on a 2.5" spacer lift for road use.
But you do think I'll have issues with alignment on stock uca,ball joints seam to be in good condition .
 

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Spacer lift , OH dear , maybe you should read up on the bad idea on junk spacer lifts
PLUS I am fully aware of the height of the tires, its the spacers that will give you issues when turning
By the time you buy good stock style springs, good shocks etc you'll have as much as a good OME lift
 

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also for example a 7 inch wide wheel with 4 inches of backspacing works great when lifted with a good quality lift
I've seen people install a spacer lift on old springs and end up with an inch of lift, not the 2.5 they think they would get
and some bought new springs and shocks with spacer lift and still had a bad ride
 

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also for example a 7 inch wide wheel with 4 inches of backspacing works great when lifted with a good quality lift
I've seen people install a spacer lift on old springs and end up with an inch of lift, not the 2.5 they think they would get
and some bought new springs and shoc with spacer lift and still had a bad well all new shocks and

also for example a 7 inch wide wheel with 4 inches of backspacing works great when lifted with a good quality lift
I've seen people install a spacer lift on old springs and end up with an inch of lift, not the 2.5 they think they would get
and some bought new springs and shocks with spacer lift and still had a bad ride
Don't know,I have 29.29 inch tall tires on sagging old springs now with no rubbing and decent ride, so how you figure a 16th inch wider tire and a 1/2 inch taller tire on new springs and a 2.5" lift are gonna rub and ride bad?
Even with only a 1.5 added height the math your throwing out don't add up. A stock tire on some models are 235/70 16. These are 235/75 16 on a slight lift.
You saying you think it will rub on a suspension part,like a sway bar,fender well? Some people running 245/70 16 with no rubbing on old worn out suspension parts. I know nothing is the exact same but damn my jeep ain't that bad.
 

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245-70-16s rubbed when turning on my 04 with only 5000 miles on it, got rid of the junk stockers ( 235-70-16s )before I wore the nubs off. Have had others in the shop here that were the same
Plus when you first mentioned spacers I thought wheel spacers since hardly anyone at all runs junk lift spacers , well unless you don't know anything about lifting a vehicle ;)

Been playing with KJs since 2004 so know stock sizes etc quite well

putting words in my mouth now, NEVER did I say anything about rubbing on suspension parts
 

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Okay? Apparently you don't know what a question mark is.
I was asking what you were talking about rubbing on,suspension or fender wells?(look another question)
Didn't put words in your mouth.
I'm glad you've been playing with kj since 04, but I can see fractions aren't your strong suit.
Was still rocking wranglers back in 04.
No need to try to make insults, I've probably had more lifted vehicles before you were born.,and most were either body lifts or overpriced suspension lifts,only ones I didn't have problems with was the body lifts(didn't affect factory suspension)
Wasn't asking your opinion about my choice in spacers to lift a 2wd liberty,just because you had bad luck with spacers don't make them junk,just means you don't like them,you prefer blowing a pile of cash on **** that's gonna brake on a real trail. I'm ok with your choice ,doesn't affect me,I don't care .
Was asking about 245 75 16 tires on a 2.5" spacer lift,my bad. You could have just said you weren't sure because you don't have experience with spacers and tire combinations, but instead you take it to a opinion you have on a spacer lift.
I'd say I appreciate your input,but it really wasn't that helpful.
I see this forum is the same as charger forums, (personal opinions,not helpful information. Thanks though
 

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LOLOkay? Apparently you don't know what a question mark is.
I was asking what you were talking about rubbing on,suspension or fender wells?(look another question)
Didn't put words in your mouth.
I'm glad you've been playing with kj since 04, but I can see fractions aren't your strong suit.
Was still rocking wranglers back in 04.
No need to try to make insults, I've probably had more lifted vehicles before you were born.,and most were either body lifts or overpriced suspension lifts,only ones I didn't have problems with was the body lifts(didn't affect factory suspension)
Wasn't asking your opinion about my choice in spacers to lift a 2wd liberty,just because you had bad luck with spacers don't make them junk,just means you don't like them,you prefer blowing a pile of cash on **** that's gonna brake on a real trail. I'm ok with your choice ,doesn't affect me,I don't care .
Was asking about 245 75 16 tires on a 2.5" spacer lift,my bad. You could have just said you weren't sure because you don't have experience with spacers and tire combinations, but instead you take it to a opinion you have on a spacer lift.
I'd say I appreciate your input,but it really wasn't that helpful.
I see this forum is the same as charger forums, (personal opinions,not helpful information. Thanks though
OH I know what a question mark is LOL you are funny
I've had at least one BUILT Jeep in my driveway since 1974, been several over the years all built plus many Fords, Lifted Dodge vans on 38s and 40s
I have no personal use for a spacer on a IFS due to the fact they do not work well
I will not run one on any of mine after removing several for installation of a full spring setup
Any one with any knowledge at all know full well they wear out stock parts fast
Have years of installing lift kits on many pickups, vans , and of course jeeps
Have installed over 50 on KJs and KKs
Same as Charger Forums LOL again funny
Personal opinions are great if you have actually seen, and rode in the vehicle tyou are discussing
Real trail, and my suspension is going to break? Think again
Spacer lift yes due to wearing out ball joints , both upper and lower
again experience from helping folks try and repair theirs to make it back home or at least back off the trail to be hauled home

I have the experience with real lifts and tire sizes and seen many times what will not work with a spacer style lift
Good luck in trying to make it work for a long time
I have an 3 different brands of spacer lifts in my shop with the parts that they wore out just to show people what NOT to buy and why
done
 

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All that and still cant answer my question.
Did you even read my original question about tires,or are you just replying on your personal opinions on someone else's choices. I get you don't like spacers,don't care.
Was a simple question about a 31" vs 30 " tire under a 2.5" lift on a liberty that you cant seem to answer. That's fine if you don't know, I don't know ,that's why I asked. Still not helpful. And I already bought tires and lift, and from past experience with mechanican,I know this combo will work just fine, and I'm sorry you bought a Ford before,not everyone can get it right all the time. Lol
Was just asking cause this is the first chick jeep I ever bought and I'm man enough to admit I don't know what size tires fit under these things.
I'm also respectful enough to keep my opinions about others choices to myself.
 

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UNDER A FULL SPRING LIFT, 31s ( 245-75-16S FOR EXAMPLE, 30.5 inches tall in most cases except for Coopers etc which are only 30.1 tall )
Then 4.10 gearing gets back the power and mileage you lost , one of mine I have sit up with 2.5 inches of lift and 265-70-16s/ 4.10 gearing , 265-70-16s same height as a 245-75-16
BUT, ......that is a with a full spring lift
You maybe able to run that size for a while on a spacer lift BUT springs are going to sag and rubbing starts
Seen it happen many times
Chick Jeep, sounds like you need to get back to mall crawling Wranglers
Respectful ? Im not always, I tell it like it is , if you don't like the truth in what works and what doesn't , well I feel sorry for ya

I have wheeled with Wranglers and surprised many when they thought they would have to pull your so called Chick Jeep but then had to pull them ;)
 

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I can see you didn't really read what I asked.
Yeah and I've seen a toyota pull out a crown Victoria and a Ford super duty at one time out of the river,what's your point? Mall crawler wranglers? What is that? I used mine on the dried up Alapaha river bed and swamps. Never really hung out at a mall
I've raced a vw bug in a 69 charger r/t 426 got my *** whipped., bug had a 350 in it. I'm not here to compair **** sizes,or to see who can **** the farthest.
Yeah the liberty is a teenage chick jeep.
But now own one,I'm no teenage chick.
I cant see regearing a liberty for a 29.88(30") tire. I'm going up 3/4 of a inch. From a 225/75 16 29.29(29 1/4") I'm not going up to a 245/75 16,to wide and heavy ,besides another 10000 miles these new springs will b sagging
I get you probably don't think I know gearing ratio, but believe it or not other people have built cars,and trucks before. This is my first girl jeep,I like it it's fun to drive,never built one of these,but not my first rodeo.
Needed info on a tire and all I got was **** about a spacer lift. And yes look at the majority of liberty drivers on the road,97% women.
I do appreciate you finally answering the tire question though. I'm not wheeling a 2wd liberty don't need mud tires, I go all terrain way to busy to play in the woods anymore
. My ram has same 3.7 way heavier with 32" tires never lost power,gas milage ***** though,15 in the city not sure on gearing in it. But it can still break the tires loose.
 

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98 percent of the Wranglers are driven by WOMEN, see them daily so what is point and why do you want to own a " so called girly Jeep " ?

on my 04 went from stock size tires to 32s
could not use overdrive, mileage dropped 5-6 MPG
regeared to 4.10s, helped some , got 21 easy at 75 plus on the big roads ( should be 4.56s with 32s on a KJ )
on my 03 with 31s and 4.10s drives like stock , 22-22.5 on the highway easy
gearing helps a lot, ask anyone who has done it
Have a good life
 

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FYI - I've used 245 70 16 tires without a lift and with 1.25 inch wheel spacers. They would rub on the rear front fender liner pinch weld bump out.
A 2 inch Spacer lift resolved these problems. Cheap, simple, but a bit clunky.
Then went to 245 75 16 with spacer lift and wheel spacers, needed to flatten the pinch weld and do some trimming of the inner fender liner to avoid rubbing. Mine is a CRD model and does fine with these slightly larger tires w/o any regarding, but would probably beneficial on the gasoline model.
 

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FYI - I've used 245 70 16 tires without a lift and with 1.25 inch wheel spacers. They would rub on the rear front fender liner pinch weld bump out.
A 2 inch Spacer lift resolved these problems. Cheap, simple, but a bit clunky.
Then went to 245 75 16 with spacer lift and wheel spacers, needed to flatten the pinch weld and do some trimming of the inner fender liner to avoid rubbing. Mine is a CRD model and does fine with these slightly larger tires w/o any regarding, but would probably beneficial on the gasoline model.
I've done two CRDS with OME lifts, 245-75-16s and then later regeared to 4.10s
BOTH owners said it made a tremendous difference , it helps no matter if gas or diesel
Plus you know, or should know, no company recommends their spacer lifts be used on a CRD, due to weight etc
 

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Before y'all preach the bad read first.
I got 2.5 front spacers,2" rear spacers.
My springs will not be sagging I have new struts and springs, rear springs and shocks.
My question is tires. I'm looking at 245 70 16(stock steel wheels). But I want the tire to fill out the wheel well. Would a 245 75 16 be better?
Don't want to cut nothing, it's a 2wd and I'm doing it for aesthetics not off road.
Has anyone had success with 245 75. Or should I get the 70 all terrain? I've read multiple threads,and nobody really gives a definite answer. It's a dd, might hit dirt roads a few times.
Hi I have just had the same dilemma and have gone with 245 70 16 but on modular steel wheels and I can say although very noisy they are fine (in my opinion)
 

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Evidently no one has seen the damage that the spacer lifts cause , or how much you have to spend replacing parts when worn out by those lifts
You can " get by " for a short while but in the end you pay extra ( above and beyond what an OME lift costs )
Oh well live and learn the hard way I guess
 

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Sorry I don’t have spacers I’m on standard suspension but in uk so maybe different set up? Thanks for your help though
 

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