Went out to the Tuttle creek offroad park in eastern kansas, I live about 25min from it. Wanted to see what my basically stock kj would do. A friend of mine tagged along with his yj w/3" lift and general grabbers came along. I made it through everything he did. My kj has a clevis &top plate front and isolator rear, factory skids, and factory working lsd(245-17" cooper atp's).