New Owner with Questions

Cheyne said:

I assume they are 350 lbs?

I don't want to get her something that is too hard to get in and out of since she's only around 5', but the stability/planted driving is FAR more important than any of it. I'll figure out step bars, etc if needed. Actually, I would have to check this evening but I believe it has a step rail. I just wouldn't have noticed it much since I don't need it.

Stability and longevity, not lift, are the key here so that they don't wear without me knowing it since I imagine she'll have this vehicle for many years to come and I may not have access to it down the road if say she's away at school. Some lift, if necessary, is ok to achieve the other two factors.

Is there somewhere to determine ride height change from stock with the 925,926,927?

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LOL yes 350 thats what I get after working 14 hours and answering questions
My Mother who is 84 has had both knees replaced gets into my 04 with over 4 inches of lift and 32s , shes under 5 foot. Wife is 5'2" and gets in the 04 no issues bout likes the 03 better at 2.5 inches LOL

927s give 2.5 inches
926s give about 2 it seems depending ( have had various reports over the years
925s about the same as the 926s but just less spring rate
Not many at all go for the 925s or 926s of course
IF it were me or a customer was asking me to suggest and do the install
I'd do 926/947 combo

Since I can't have JBA adjustable coilovers on everything I own ( but wish I could )
Thats the setup that will be going on the 05 when my Stepfather can't drive it any longer
My son will take over driving duties of it then

When you lifted your rig that’s one of the benefits.
You increases the visibility on the road. Which is good.
if you are a responsible driver you can have the advantage to anticipate safety on the road.

I'm back ... I finally received the title which I needed before spending a mint on the Jeep. The engine will be ordered today, but I did want to make sure I had the parts and numbers right on the suspension before ordering. To avoid lifting too high (although I will install some type of nerf bars for her) and have good, safe, stiff handling without being far too stiff:

From JBA:
Front: OME2926 springs with 90009 struts
Rear: OME2947 springs with 60069 shocks
Add Al's A-arms for a lifted KJ

Then replace ball joints in lower control arms if needed.

This will be for street use. She's not the type to go off road, at least not yet. I may. :gr_grin:

Thoughts?

Cheyne said:

I'm back ... I finally received the title which I needed before spending a mint on the Jeep. The engine will be ordered today, but I did want to make sure I had the parts and numbers right on the suspension before ordering. To avoid lifting too high (although I will install some type of nerf bars for her) and have good, safe, stiff handling without being far too stiff:

From JBA:
Front: OME2926 springs with 90009 struts
Rear: OME2947 springs with 60069 shocks
Add Al's A-arms for a lifted KJ

Then replace ball joints in lower control arms if needed.

This will be for street use. She's not the type to go off road, at least not yet. I may. :gr_grin:

Thoughts?

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wouldn't use the 926/947 personally but if not wanting much lift and a soft ride then OK

tommudd said:

wouldn't use the 926/947 personally but if not wanting much lift and a soft ride then OK

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Hi, Tom. I thought these would work since they are what you mentioned above. Will these be ok to stiffen the suspension? I don't want to lift the Liberty more than necessary for the daughter and don't want a "real stiff"/harsh ride, probably more OE but without the sagging.

I absolutely, however, want to minimize body roll while accomplishing above. I assume the 926/947 will help with that since they're stronger than the OE springs. Primarily, I want the Liberty glued to the road when she's driving.

Cheyne said:

Hi, Tom. I thought these would work since they are what you mentioned above. Will these be ok to stiffen the suspension? I don't want to lift the Liberty more than necessary for the daughter and don't want a "real stiff"/harsh ride, probably more OE but without the sagging.

I absolutely, however, want to minimize body roll while accomplishing above. I assume the 926/947 will help with that since they're stronger than the OE springs. Primarily, I want the Liberty glued to the road when she's driving.

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Yes, that combo will work really well. I think Tom meant that he wouldn't choose that combo for his rigs mainly cuz he has lots of 'extra's on his weight-wise and he likes a firmer suspension. You won't have much lift (it WILL be higher than it is now only because the factory springs will have sagged an inch to 1.5 inches) AND you'll have a very stable Jeep.

Many think that going away from factory springs will raise the Liberty and give a harsher ride - but the combo you've chosen will give a great, stable ride with just a little more height. The OME springs are more progressive so they don't bottom out over RR tracks or sharp bumps but are still 'soft' at normal driving to give a smooth ride.

I put just under 100,000 miles on a set of OME's and was very pleased with them. My KJ is my daily driver/business vehicle and off-road fun machine and the OME's handled all that without any problems or complaints. Only replaced them because the shocks were due for replacement and since I had to tear everything out anyway I went with JBA coilovers/Adjust-A-Struts (which are AWESOME by the way.)

You and your daughter will like what you've chosen :waytogo:

Bob

Thanks, Bob. Good to know. I was just researching the springs based on perhaps misunderstanding Tom's comment and wonder if the 927/948 would be better for my concerns. I do want it comfortable for her but don't want any more body roll than I can avoid. Would this combination eliminate any more body roll potential?

I'm sorry for all of the questions but definitely want the opinion of those that have experienced these and want to make the Liberty as absolutely safe for my daughter as a young driver. This may be unnecessary overthinking from a concerned father based on your comments.

:sorry:

.............ok then

I know. Thanks, Tom.

JasonJ said:

Bob, Will the 926's add any lift to the Jeep? Sounds like they don't want much if any. And adding steps or nerf bars after having to replace the engine and suspension is not an expense they'll want, I'm sure.

If those will sit it around stock height, that would be the perfect suggestion for new springs.

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I am not "short" (I'm 5'6) but my first project for my kj is adding nerf rails. It's a necessity for any girl who drives with heels. It's not easy to get in with stilettos without a little help! Lol

twixy79 said:

I am not "short" (I'm 5'6) but my first project for my kj is adding nerf rails. It's a necessity for any girl who drives with heels. It's not easy to get in with stilettos without a little help! Lol

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OK you should never ever have any reason to even ask for help if you are wearing stilettos.............help should ALWAYS be right there !

LOL

Ok ... So no nerf bars so as to discourage stilettos. :happy175:

The engine has arrived and the installation along with a long list of other items begins late this week. After much reading in the lift section which I had not seen before, I have decided to stick with the 926/947. It also appears the OME 1.5 can be used with the stock arms, so I'll check their condition before ordering parts. Any other items that may be necessary for the installation other than the coils and springs? Are new bump stops needed for this height? I didn't see them mentioned on this size lift.

Also, I was climbing around underneath yesterday after it has sat for a while and the transmission has a slight leak. The pan is slightly damp and the transmission bell housing has a small amount as if it's about to drip. The transmission was recently serviced by other than a dealer according to the history report. The RTV doesn't appear particularly recent so it may have been simply flushed and the pan not dropped. I'll probably have to drop it to seal it back up and change the filter, but I could also see some moisture coming from above it on the driver's side. It wasn't on ramps, so I couldn't move around to get a good look and did not think to check the passenger side. May be cooling lines or speed sensor. 42RLE