GF wants a Jeep

HoosierJeeper said:

I think the Command Trac says 2WD 4HI N 4LO...

For Limiteds, if it has leather it'll probably have Selec Trac, if it has cloth it'll probably have Command Trac. That's not a hard and fast rule (I don't know exactly how they were grouped) but I've yet to see a KJ Limited that has cloth and Selec Trac or one with leather and Command Trac.

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Ah, thanks.

I thought it was relatively rare to find mine - I wanted a Sport, with SelecTrac, off road pkg and tow pkg...and preferred Jeep Green. Lo and behold, there was one in dealer inventory about 20 miles from my house! So, I bought it.

True story, I printed the information from the website and took it in to the dealer. I told him what I wanted and he told me there's no way anyone would have a KJ equipped like that. They already started KK production at that point, so he said I was kind of SOL as I couldn't order one either. Handed him the printout with the stock number, and he was legitimately shocked to see that he had one in stock.

So if I'm driving in snow and I have Command-Trac, what would I use in snow? What does anyone who has one suggest? My husband has the Selec-Trac one so he's not sure for me...thanks.

Shift into 4WD on the fly when you need it, back to 2WD when you don't:

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michi4773 said:

So if I'm driving in snow and I have Command-Trac, what would I use in snow? What does anyone who has one suggest? My husband has the Selec-Trac one so he's not sure for me...thanks.

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If the road is completely or most snow covered (not patchy) 4hi would be ok. If you start to feel the binding, shift into 2WD.

michi4773 said:

So if I'm driving in snow and I have Command-Trac, what would I use in snow? What does anyone who has one suggest? My husband has the Selec-Trac one so he's not sure for me...thanks.

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Basically, to be in 4 hi you need to make sure the wheels can slip a little. I wouldn't do it on wet or dry pavement.

Additionally, you just need to be cognizant of the system when you are taking turns and whatnot. You'll feel the drivetrain start to bind. Unless you are on a pretty slick surface, I would try to avoid tight turns.

I shift in & out (depending on road conditions) of 4WD in the winter all the time it's good to exercise the shift. I my turn on to one street and need it go under a bridge not need it and then put it back in.

I like part-time 4wd (command-trac) even in heavy rain. It improves traction of course, but also better braking control.

So where is the best place to get a service manual and how much do those cost?

Is there an electronic version available online somewhere?

Try this:

Index of /manuals/Jeep/KJ :secret:

u2slow said:

I like part-time 4wd (command-trac) even in heavy rain. It improves traction of course, but also better braking control.

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Just realize you do run the risk of binding up the drivetrain, especially on a turn. IMHO, wet pavement doesn't give enough "slip" for me to be comfortable in PT4WD.

Atrus said:

Just realize you do run the risk of binding up the drivetrain, especially on a turn. IMHO, wet pavement doesn't give enough "slip" for me to be comfortable in PT4WD.

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Too many use it like a crutch when its not really needed.
Good tires and better driving skills go further than always throwing it into 4 wheel drive

I have confidence michi and mcgavin's GF will figure out the particulars of part-time 4wd - and when it makes sense to use it - much like I did as a teenager 20 years ago. :Rock on:

tommudd said:

Too many use it like a crutch when its not really needed.
Good tires and better driving skills go further than always throwing it into 4 wheel drive

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Yeah, only put it in 4WD when it's really needed, 2WD will get one pretty far with good tires and skill.

Now if the road is completely snow covered then yeah 4WD for stability.

Thank you very much for the manuals!!

So what about this one?
Autotrader listing

I know the ad doesn't say much, but at a glance, what do you guys think? Anything particular stand out from the pictures?

jankerson said:

Yeah, only put it in 4WD when it's really needed, 2WD will get one pretty far with good tires and skill.

Now if the road is completely snow covered then yeah 4WD for stability.

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Only after its 6 inches deep at least, up to that point its still go like its a dry road :flamingdevil:

tommudd said:

Only after its 6 inches deep at least, up to that point its still go like its a dry road :flamingdevil:

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Not down here in NC, we get that wet slushy stuff here and a lot of ice.... :thumbsdown:

Now yeah with the dry stuff, no problem at all.

mcgavinz26 said:

Thank you very much for the manuals!!

So what about this one?
Autotrader listing

I know the ad doesn't say much, but at a glance, what do you guys think? Anything particular stand out from the pictures?

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I'm a relatively new Liberty owner, so take this advice for what it's worth. The mileage looks fine for that price and the picture looks good. The repair history is a definite plus. The ad states it is 2WD. I don't know if they made solely 2WD Liberty's or if the ad just didn't mention the part-time 4WD many (all?) of them have. Perhaps a more experienced user can comment.

profdlp said:

I'm a relatively new Liberty owner, so take this advice for what it's worth. The mileage looks fine for that price and the picture looks good. The repair history is a definite plus. The ad states it is 2WD. I don't know if they made solely 2WD Liberty's or if the ad just didn't mention the part-time 4WD many (all?) of them have. Perhaps a more experienced user can comment.

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That is plain 2WD. No 4WD...they made lots of them for FL people. It was really hard to find my 4x4 one when I lived down there. That one is mismarked as a Limited...it's a Sport.

mcgavinz26 said:

Thank you very much for the manuals!!

So what about this one?
Autotrader listing

I know the ad doesn't say much, but at a glance, what do you guys think? Anything particular stand out from the pictures?

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See above!

I think I'm fine with 2WD. Our winters haven't been that bad, never do any off roading, commute to work will be short and off highway if weather is bad anyways. Also, we have a relative that works at a tire shop, so swapping on a set of snow tires for 4 months won't be a big deal. I see it as better fuel economy and less moving parts to fix. It will be harder to sell in this area, but if al goes well and we keep it 6 or 7 years, then it will probably only make the difference of $500 when its only worth $3000 anyways.

jankerson said:

Not down here in NC, we get that wet slushy stuff here and a lot of ice.... :thumbsdown:

Now yeah with the dry stuff, no problem at all.

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Yeah we never get wet and slushy here in Northwest Ohio:emotions33: