Check out this fuel additive

http://www.ca40g.com

I heard about it on a radio talk show and thought I would give it a try. I have the 2.4L and according to the evic I currently get around 19-20 in the city and 23-25 on the hwy. I just put some in yesterday and I'll have to see if it delivers on its claims of better fuel efficiency. I'm not holding my breath though haha.

Hmmm. 1 Gallon of CA-40 treats 2400 gallons of fuel!! I average about 64 gallons per month which equates to about 768 Gallons per year. I could pull over 3 years using this stuff at each fill up. On average.

Can we somehow invest in this? lol.

Ahh, an interesting fuel additive from Detroit...................................Lakes, MN. lol3.gif

MoladoGuy said:

Hmmm. 1 Gallon of CA-40 treats 2400 gallons of fuel!! I average about 64 gallons per month which equates to about 768 Gallons per year. I could pull over 3 years using this stuff at each fill up. On average.

Can we somehow invest in this? lol.

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Ha ha, it will last you a long time thats for sure. I bought the 1 quart bottle for $30.00 (41 after shipping and tax). Considering I only have to use 1 ounce per fill up it should last me for approximately 35 (or 39, I did the math and i can't remember what I came up with) trips to the gas station. They even give you a syringe to help you measure it.

Deknight....................Interesting. Never heard of it before. Let us know your results. I hope it's not another "snake oil" product.

It will depend on how many "extra" miles to the gallon it will give you so you can figure the "break even" point of the initial investment of the one gallon jug of it. Then past that point will be the savings. This will vary with different drivers, different terrain, etc, etc.

Dave

Definitely let us know... I wouldn't mind trying a little bit of it myself if you see results.

here i go again, and im not meaning to hijack.....is this stuff anything like adding acetone?

jelohead said:

here i go again, and im not meaning to hijack.....is this stuff anything like adding acetone?

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I didnt know about acetone increasing mileage. Has anyone actually tried it or is it another myth?

apparently people have actually tried it, but im hearing that it can and very well might eat up anything rubber in it's path.....YIKES!

Acetone, haha - I was gonna ask that, but you beat me to it. Acetone will not eat the buna rubber seals and gaskets in your engine. People have done experiments by soaking these parts in 100% acetone for over 6 months with no noticeable degredation to the parts or increse/decrease in diameter. So far I have heard significantly more good than bad about adding acetone as far as mileage gains. one of these days, I'm going to try it as soon as I get to a Walgreens to purchase some.

I have tried the acetone experiment.

I tried it back before I did the tune up, so I was running OEM plugs and all that crap. I run a regular paper air filter, and use mobil 1 synthetic 10W30 year round.

Before adding acetone I was averaging about 15-16 combined city/highway. While using acetone for the period of one month, I continued to average about 15-16 city/highway. This was with filling up at any number of name brand stations (sheetz, costco, shell...etc etc...who ever was cheaper at the time).

After doing the tune up, and switching to BP Regular, I now average 18-19 combined city/highway....however my driving has now mainly gone to highway and country roads....so short distance driving isn't really an issue (the number one killer in gas mileage).

So in the end, I did not see any improvement at all with running acetone. Instead I will run a bottle of seafoam through the tank every couple of months or so just to clean out all the crap that might be trying to build up in the fuel system.

http://www.myffi.biz/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=27

I tried this stuff (link above)and saw NO improvement, it too claims to increase burn time in the cumbustion chamber. Please keep us posted I'm really interested in knowing if it works.

deknight said:

http://www.ca40g.com

I heard about it on a radio talk show and thought I would give it a try. I have the 2.4L and according to the evic I currently get around 19-20 in the city and 23-25 on the hwy. I just put some in yesterday and I'll have to see if it delivers on its claims of better fuel efficiency. I'm not holding my breath though haha.

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Sorry just a "snake oil" product.You just wasted your money and could have the chance of hurting your engine.There is no fuel additive that will increase your mpg's or it would already be in the gas we buy.There are fuel additives that restore lost mpg's(seafoam and such) but you can not create in which there was not there before as far a mpg's.Any product that starts with "will improve" or "will increase" is a total sham as far a mpg's is concerned.What are you complaining about anyway,19-25 mpg's with a Jeep is totally awesome.You bought a Jeep not a Honda,Jeep and good mpg's don't go teghether real well in the same sentence.Jeeps are not made for good mpg's,sorry go buy a Honda for that.Mt 2 cents.

tjkj2002 said:

You bought a Jeep not a Honda,Jeep and good mpg's don't go together real well in the same sentence.Jeeps are not made for good mpg's,sorry go buy a Honda for that.Mt 2 cents.

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I couldn't have said it better myself!

tjkj2002 said:

Sorry just a "snake oil" product.You just wasted your money and could have the chance of hurting your engine.There is no fuel additive that will increase your mpg's or it would already be in the gas we buy.There are fuel additives that restore lost mpg's(seafoam and such) but you can not create in which there was not there before as far a mpg's.Any product that starts with "will improve" or "will increase" is a total sham as far a mpg's is concerned.What are you complaining about anyway,19-25 mpg's with a Jeep is totally awesome.You bought a Jeep not a Honda,Jeep and good mpg's don't go teghether real well in the same sentence.Jeeps are not made for good mpg's,sorry go buy a Honda for that.Mt 2 cents.

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So just wondering... what exactly will you say if this product really does WORK?

Off Topic: I should have picked up a 2.4L KJ in the first place if you're getting that for MPG... I don't care much about speed.... and I don't tow a thing.

jelohead said:

here i go again, and im not meaning to hijack.....is this stuff anything like adding acetone?

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I wouldn't put acetone in my lawnmower never mind the Jeep. But that's me.

Dave

So just wondering... what exactly will you say if this product really does WORK?

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It won't,it may clean the fuel system and restore lost mpg's but will not increase mpg's beyond what it was getting new.There never was or probally never will be a magic fuel additive with OPEC around,they buy all the patents and then they disappear forever,just like the battery tech for electric cars,most of the patents are owned by OPEC and have disappeared until someone tries to bring it back around then they get sued.

Well, I did a lot of driving this weekend both highway and city and I have noticed a slight improvement, maybe 0.8 -1 mpg. But this is just reading the Evic and going by the mileage I was getting before I put the CA-40 in. I am going to give it 2 more fill ups then stop using it and see what happens for another 3 fill ups and see if it goes down. I want to give it more time before I say this increase is from the ca-40 or not because I am a skeptic as well.

As far as the acetone goes, I don't think that will work on newer cars. I spoke to a mechanic neighbor of mine and he says that has worked on certain automobiles but most of them were all older cars (20+ years old) with carberaters. That tells me its either cleaning things out or it has something to do with making the gas vaperize better, which fuel injectors already do.

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It won't,it may clean the fuel system and restore lost mpg's but will not increase mpg's beyond what it was getting new.There never was or probally never will be a magic fuel additive with OPEC around,they buy all the patents and then they disappear forever,just like the battery tech for electric cars,most of the patents are owned by OPEC and have disappeared until someone tries to bring it back around then they get sued.

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sad2.gif Never mind... I give up.

Long term update

Okay.... I know I am going to get a lot of "I told you so's" But I would rather have that then have someone else waste money on this product.

So I tested this CA-40g stuff over two fill ups (I didn't want to go three and Ill explain why in a minute). At first it appeared that my mileage went up, but that was either a statistical anomaly or my driving habits. Shortly after I noticed my mileage went down and it went down big time! I was now barely getting 18 mpg on average. I usually get 20 to 21 when I do mixed driving.

So I decided to check out a few things and one of them was my spark plugs. I had just put in new autolite platinums about 10 days before using the additive. I took out the spark plugs and they were Black! Like someone had painted the tips. And it wasn't that ashy dark gray color, it was black. So I decided to throw those out and bought Ngk Iridiums. Now I am back to getting my old gas mileage again using regular gas. The only explanation I can give is that the CA-40 stuff is supposed to be super slippery and help your gas burn better. Well whatever is in it is slippery, in fact I am going to use it now to lube metal parts. I think that was even one of their tests on the website.

So, the test confirmed what I had suspected. It doesn't work. It may work for some cars but not this Jeep. Normally I would say it wouldn't work for any automobile but I just went through the whole fiasco with using Champion spark plugs and finding out that for whatever reason the Jeep didn't like those (see my earlier posts).... even though the emission label gives you a number for Champian Plugs and a number for NGK's.

Anyways... I took the chance, I knew full well it could be a snake oil, but I was feeling in the mood to experiment and the conclusion is: DON'T USE IT.