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My full 4.10 deal was expensive. I would figure on 1000 for the whole thing. For my jeep I went ...

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Old 04-16-2018, 08:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My full 4.10 deal was expensive. I would figure on 1000 for the whole thing. For my jeep I went way way over board and got a eaton electronic locker up front and eaton true trac in the rear.
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Old 04-17-2018, 04:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tommudd View Post
Well you don't have to , but transmission will shift more often and run hotter and motor will be lugging down more unless you kick the OD off more often. Some do it , but.......
And finding a 4 cylinder is a cheaper way to do it, have done quit a few that way, pull front and rear diffs and swap them over
4cyl has 4.10?
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Originally Posted by sleepyjim View Post
4cyl has 4.10?
Yes, so you can just swap front diff/rear axle and be good to go.

If you want to add lockers then I would suggest you just get new gears and redo your current diffs.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sleepyjim View Post
4cyl has 4.10?
Yes , thats all they came with
Takes only a few hours total to swap front and rear
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Theres just no way it can be worth it to swap 3.73's for 4.10's unless you can do the work yourself. Suppose it all depends on ones skill set.

It was worth it when I changed my 2013 mustang from 2.73 to 3.73 but I seriously doubt someones engine or trans will explode from very slightly larger tires.
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Originally Posted by Juggar View Post
Theres just no way it can be worth it to swap 3.73's for 4.10's unless you can do the work yourself. Suppose it all depends on ones skill set.

It was worth it when I changed my 2013 mustang from 2.73 to 3.73 but I seriously doubt someones engine or trans will explode from very slightly larger tires.
LOL, ok its harder on the transmissions, harder on the motors since they run hotter, cost ya more at the pump . Figure at least 6-7 MPG loss with 32s and stock gearing. Shifts way way more.
So its a great upgrade, just like better tires, good lifts etc .
Been upgrading4x4s for over 40 years and everyone got regeared of mine and friends, built it right.
And please do tell why it was worth it on a mustang but not a KJ , inquiring minds want to know
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Originally Posted by tommudd View Post
LOL, ok its harder on the transmissions, harder on the motors since they run hotter, cost ya more at the pump . Figure at least 6-7 MPG loss with 32s and stock gearing. Shifts way way more.
So its a great upgrade, just like better tires, good lifts etc .
Been upgrading4x4s for over 40 years and everyone got regeared of mine and friends, built it right.
And please do tell why it was worth it on a mustang but not a KJ , inquiring minds want to know
Simple, there is only one axle on a mustang which cuts cost nearly in half. That and the gear ratio change from 2.73 to 3.73 is a much larger difference than 3.73 to 4.10. Also cut off over a second 0-60 on that mustang. Jeep honestly seems OK with 3.73 and 245 75 R16.

That said, if I could get the gears for super cheap and had the ability, sure id change over to 4.10. Not sure how many labor hours my shop would charge me. I feel like, for it to be financially worth it, id need to go to something higher like 4.56.

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Originally Posted by Juggar View Post
Simple, there is only one axle on a mustang which cuts cost nearly in half. That and the gear ratio change from 2.73 to 3.73 is a much larger difference than 3.73 to 4.10. Also cut off over a second 0-60 on that mustang. Jeep honestly seems OK with 3.73 and 245 75 R16.

That said, if I could get the gears for super cheap and had the ability, sure id change over to 4.10. Not sure how many labor hours my shop would charge me. I feel like, for it to be financially worth it, id need to go to something higher like 4.56.
You've never ridden in a KJ that has been regeared I can assume from what you are posting.
My 04 when I went to 32s , couldn't even use it with out the OD off. Went from 20-21 at highway speed to 14-15 at best and needed Grandma to push at any hill. That lasted a week, a regear to only 4.10s brought the pep back, got back my mileage and was way more fun again. Over 100,000 miles later it had paid for itself many times over.
Now my 03 I only went with the 2.5 inch JBA coilover lift, 265-70-16s and did a couple of trips before the 4.10s . 125 -130 miles to my parents driven the road 1000's of times over the last 50 years. The 03 with the 30.6 inch tall tires and stock gearing shifted over 30 times. Next trip I had regeared and it shifted only one time.
NOW to my little brain, thats way better on both the motor and transmission plus more mileage. Now in no way am I a rocket genius but doesn't take much knowledge to know thats way better. These motors like to be would up a bit, if they get down into the 1500-1700 RPM range they are a dog.
Oh and 4.56s work great with 32s, 4.10s work best with 265-70-16s and 245-75-16s ( same height)

As I've stated 4 bangers have 4.10s, I've picked up both front and rears for under 350 bucks. I have 2 full sets here waiting and don't have over 800 in both sets. No not for sale, still have another KJ waiting to be built and my Step fathers will be after that one


I'm down in Winston Salem NC quite often ( my wife is a Professor at a University down there ) , meet you have way and give ya ride sometime so you can experience
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4:10's were definitely a great upgrade when I went to 245's on the tires. I got back the power I lost along with fuel mileage lost. It was also nice to smoke some Jeep Wranglers that were running a bigger tire but hadn't re-geared.
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